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  1. texas arsenal

    texas arsenal New Member

    Aug 7, 2003
    Frisco Tx
  2. ZenCarver

    ZenCarver New Member

    May 26, 2003
    Richardson, TX
    except for the damned 'e', i really like their crest though.

    however - the name sucks balls, and the colors and uniform design suck balls, too.
     
  3. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    secondary logo on the merchandise page.


    [​IMG]

    I think they had to do the funny 'e' to make people say "Ray.al"
    the wrote it ReAL in the press release.

    will this help people not say "reel" ??
     
  4. Kevin Lindstrom

    Oct 28, 2003
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Someone want to explain to me where they get the idea that "Real SL" has any tradition or tie to Utah?

    I mean, in an area that has a Spanish or Hispanic heritage, I can see it - San Antonio, San Diego, etc.

    But this is almost as bad as the Jazz.....

    Then again, that is my only real problem - I like the idea of a solid owner, a solid GM (he seems to be on board with the idea of supporters, etc. - although we will have to see about how the fans of the team feel about it...)
     
  5. ZenCarver

    ZenCarver New Member

    May 26, 2003
    Richardson, TX
    ok, that's much better. i dig that a lot.
     
  6. Zé Bill

    Zé Bill Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    the jersey in the picture looks like K.C. Wizards
    the logo looks like K.C. Royals (baseball)

    labored verbiage behind the name choice
    also do they intend the spelling to be R-e-A-L ?
    with a small "e" ?

    the dictionary-like pronunciation guide in the press release, for the word "real", is wrong

    2 of their three colors (red, blue, gold) are shared by FC Dallas and Chivas

    I hope the jersey in the picture (some people call it "generic adidas") isn't the actual (= real) Real '05 jersey.

    If it is, that might unhappily foreshadow laziness on the part of adidas re: OUR '05 UNIFORM!

    best of luck to Checketts and Ellinger
     
  7. texas arsenal

    texas arsenal New Member

    Aug 7, 2003
    Frisco Tx
    I posted over in the SLC forum that if you repeatedly have to explain how to pronounce the teams nickname in the press release then its probably not a good fit.
     
  8. texas arsenal

    texas arsenal New Member

    Aug 7, 2003
    Frisco Tx
    I guess we can look forward to the San Antonio Canucks or the Houston Maple Leafs.
     
  9. ZenCarver

    ZenCarver New Member

    May 26, 2003
    Richardson, TX
    fixed your post. ;)
     
  10. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that's the generic MLS jersey they had him hold up at the announcement of the franchise 2 months ago.

    that is not the ReAL jersey.
     
  11. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I kinda like it. I like it better than the other 3 ideas.

    Still should have been Salt Lake Wanderers.


    AI also wish they ahd taken purple in stead of blue and red again.
     
  12. Zé Bill

    Zé Bill Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    OK good better

    I stand corrected: the uniform in the old picture isn't ReAL's '05 uniform

    and the logo (that 3rd found, above) is more distinctive

    (than the press release's other logo with the tiny spheres on the end of the crown's points)

    Ivory and Maroon is a good combo that uses unusual colors, ok?, team #13? or you, team #14? no more red and blue

    FC braintrust: get your logic-tree all fine-tuned for expansion draft, SuperDraft, discovery etc etc so we beat ReAL really good for a really long time.
     
  13. SoccerX

    SoccerX Member

    Dec 19, 2001
    Republic of Texas
    PUH-leeeeeze!

    This is getting ReAL embarrASSing. All of a sudden the original MLS "nikenames" don't look so stupid and new age. Is this the coming fad in soccer, to just copy someone else's name because we are to stupid, to much of a Eurosnob or Latinophile to come up with a name truly distinctive?

    FC Dallas and Real Salt Lake are names chosen by posers. Posers, those guys who want to glom onto someone else's soccer heritage because they are either too ignorant of their own or they are ashamed of what has been before. Kudos to San Jose for honoring the past (and if things continue to rumble, the future) by dumping the "Clash" and renaming as the Earthquakes.

    If you go back and read Hunt/HSG/Elliot comments regarding the Burn changing their name due to rebranding:
    "Hunt emphasized that the change is being made to create a fresh, new, vibrant team identity that encompasses the image of the new facility as well as the roots of the game in North Texas, the United States and around the world."

    I'll bet Salt Lake said "yeah, what Dallas said!"

    I have a feeling that Checketts couldn't spell soccer two years ago.
     
  14. Viking64

    Viking64 Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Tarheel State
    Honestly, I think it's foolish.

    Somewhere in Utah, a sociology PhD candidate just got a topic for his doctoral.

    Course, I don't know if sociology is legal there. Hope so.

    "the sociological implications of new world/old world angst of displaced monarchists longing for the Royal Catholic Golden age, in post-polygomous Utah."
     
  15. doctor_j

    doctor_j New Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    reppin' ETex
    Remember that Simpsons episode where they start the barbershop quartet (The Be-Sharps)? And they note that a name should be funny when you first hear it, and subsequently less funny each time after that?

    In that respect, I think it works quite well...
     
  16. McKinney_Burn

    McKinney_Burn New Member

    Jan 13, 2003
    Pizza Hut
    Carry over from when the team was in New Orleans. Which brings up the debate of when a team moves, do you keep the nickname? (Though it doesn't need to be debated here.)

    I think what I am reading, is that fans of MLS are disappointed by this. And it is horrible. Though it may fills seats in the 'here and now', those in the US that know who Beckham and who he plays for and how 'cool' it is that a local team has the same name as that club. What happens when the league is a true self sustaining league? Where is the unique identity?

    I think this proves Bruce's point about not enough 'soccer people' being involved. A 'soccer person' wouldn't allow this to happen.
     
  17. The Vorpal Blade

    The Vorpal Blade New Member

    Jul 22, 2003
    I Have
    Real Salt Lake. OMFG. Who pays these people that come up with these names? As John Kerry says, "We can do better!"
     
  18. Brushes Sand

    Brushes Sand Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    polychronicqatsitime

    They think they are being cute evoking Real Madrid.

    They actually are evoking a completely suppressed
    volume of the history of the United States.

    I love it. Mistakenly evoking the Theocracy of Deseret, that is.
    Or was it intentional? :)

    I'll be posting the full meal deal in the MLS forum.

    However, you can look forward to "MOUNTAIN MEADOW AVENGERS"
    in 3-foot high letters in Frisco next year for our Salt Lake Fixture(s).

    -bs
     
  19. Native Aztexan

    Jan 27, 2002
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And who are their sponsors? Burger King?
     
  20. Brushes Sand

    Brushes Sand Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    polychronicqatsitime

    Well, if I had to guess, I'd say
    the Council of 50, & possibly
    the School of the Prophets.

    I doubt the First Presidency
    would become overtly involved
    in something as secular as Soccer.

    -bs
     
  21. Native Aztexan

    Jan 27, 2002
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I take it that these 2 are out

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    [​IMG]

    Since this is Utah we're talking about.
     
  22. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just think, we're gonna have a cakewalk, compared to all the [Ricky Ricardo]'splainin[/Ricky Ricardo] that the fans of the Stormin' Mormons are gonna have to do.

    BTW, I saw "Stormin' Mormons" way back when in the Expansion forum and I always kind of liked it. And now that they've gone off and chosen the single worst name in MLS history (yes, it's even worse than "Dallas Burn," "San Jose Clash," and "Kansas City Wiz," just in a different way), it's going to be the name I use exclusively when referring to MLS' Salt Lake franchise and I recommend that you do to.
     
  23. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It makes you wonder what MLS execs name their kids.

    Isn't Single Entity supposed to stop individual stupidity from happening?
     
  24. Zé Bill

    Zé Bill Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    i thought "ray-AL" was a humorous place-holder to stand in for SLC's future name til they actually named it---

    last night John Ellinger on MLS Wrap said---there was nothing certain, but---Real Madrid was supposedly considering some kind of relationship with SLC.

    If you were Real Madrid, wouldn't you think that was a little presumptuous ?: This new unkown team
    names themselves after you and then sidles up and says, "Hey I'm the little brother you never knew you had!"---

    ---unless maybe the relationship talks are farther along than Ellinger indicated. if so---then a true connection would give "ReAL SLC" its first bit of legitimacy.

    It's a puzzle otherwise---still that only puts SLC in the imitative bag with the Liverpools, Arsenals, Wandererses, and Barcelonas etc OF SOUTH AMERICA, that is.

    MLS Wrap had tape from the SLC announcement and Checketts giddily said something like "...and will be known for eternity as REE-al..." so we should have enough time to get used to it and its various pronunciations.
     
  25. Scipio Gothicus

    Aug 6, 2001
    Cabo San Lucas
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would like to thank the folks in Salt lake for taking the name Real Salt Lake. If HSG decides to change the name again, we will not have to suffer Real Dallas.

    From State of the Union Undressed on Comedy Central, a few years ago, Ibeg your pardon for the paraphrase.
    Three Dollar Bill Clinton: This nation was founded on one great idea...
    Dennis Miller: We hate the Brittish.

    At first, I did like the name. All kinds of tradition. Madrid, Zargoza, Bettis. After further thought, I began to despise it. Royal? Antithesis of the US. Vide Tom Paine.

    Cheers!
    Sir Drinxalot
     

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