Uhh, we have a REAL problem...

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by Marchetti, Oct 9, 2004.

  1. hornonmyankle

    hornonmyankle New Member

    Mar 15, 2002
    Austin, Texas
    I like the name and the logo is great. It is distinctly a soccer name which is important. I would like to see an all gold jersey with blue numbers and shorts.
     
  2. Conan The Dog

    Conan The Dog New Member

    Aug 28, 2004
    Connollys
    I think its a great name and a great logo. Congratulations :)
     
  3. Saeyddthe

    Saeyddthe Member

    Sep 5, 2003
    St. Looney ^the CB&J
    Just tell them they're playing "Utah"...or "Salt Lake"...or "The Floaters"...or my favorite, "The Magic Hats"...
    They can call themselves whatever the hell they want. Fortunately, so can I...;)
     
  4. jeffenbauer

    jeffenbauer Member

    Jul 17, 2002
    dallas, tx
    I don't like the name, as I do think of it as too much of a rip off from Real Madrid. However, I think people are overreacting if they think the team will never be good because of the name. If that were the case, DC United would be the only MLS team in existince right now! (Burn, Galaxy, Rapids, Clash/Earthquakes, Metrostarts, Revolution, and Crew, yeah those were great names.)

    I do like the crest, at least the one with RSL, and the color scheme is similar to the Spanish nats which is kinda cool.

    People are complaining that you shouldn't have to explain the name to "non-soccer" people yet also complain that it is a rip off from European teams. Guess what? All the people you have to explain the name to, don't know it is a rip off!
     
  5. firesting81

    firesting81 Member+

    Jan 16, 2001
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    But you'll have to explain that its a rip off or they REALLY won't get it. Just think for a moment.
     
  6. rojojova

    rojojova Member

    Mar 7, 2001
    LA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cut to away matches for RSL next year...

    "Youuuuuuuu ReALLY Suck!!!!"
    "Youuuuuuuu ReALLY Suck!!!!"
    "Youuuuuuuu ReALLY Suck!!!!"

    fwiw- the simpler version of the badge isn't so bad
    I think people are overreacting a bit... especially if there's an arrangement w/ Real Madrid.

    godspeed
     
  7. Chowda

    Chowda Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I find it funny how most of the people posting their disdain over Real Salt Lake aren't even from the Utah area or will ever support the team. I'm not saying there aren't people from SLC that hate the name, but I have noticed that the majority of people from Utah who have posted at BigSoccer don't mind it. However, they get drowned out by fans of other teams whenever a Real Salt Lake thread starts.

    I'm all for freedom of speech, but please give it a rest. Real Salt Lake has arrived. If you don't like it, root against them extra hard when they play your team.
     
  8. CARLOS1

    CARLOS1 Member

    Aug 9, 2001
    Sunnyvale, CA
    Club:
    Real Betis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Real Salt Lake ? My, someone really had to think hard on that one. There shouldn't be any Reals' or Uniteds' in this country. Period. We might as well rename MLS to MLF(ootball).
     
  9. jasoncox

    jasoncox New Member

    Jun 28, 2004
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ditto that. It wasn't my favorite name but then none of the proposed names were. The badge looks nice, unis look fine. I could've done with different colors but the dark red is kinda nice. I hope they eventually ditch the white away kit and go with a gold jersey.
     
  10. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I respect the ownership for stepping up and investing in MLS with a new club, but they have to be sensible about things like team names. It's really nonsense to name them "Real." It might mean something in Spain, but this is MLS. :rolleyes:

    Just in case any previous poster is wondering, no I am not from Utah but I'm also not a fan of any other MLS team. I'm simply a fan of MLS. That's why I care about the name.
     
  11. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    My Royal Ass.

    Pucker up.
     
  12. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    I've taken a slight interest in this, because I have friends who are currently living over there in Utah and were pretty into the new team. They were hoping for the Salt Lake Saints.

    But I've gotta say "Real" is a ridiculous choice. Everywhere else in the world, the Real/Royal prefix is used for organisations (and indeed, military units) that have recieved the official endorsement of a member of the country's royal family. It's a great honour and a mark of status - it's not a meaningless name. This sort of gimmicky thing cheapens it ridiculously.

    You might not like the colourful "Americanised" names for other MLS teams, but at least it's something that the teams have ownership of. Pinching the names of old, established European clubs because it 'sounds cool' or is a 'real soccer name' (no pun intended) is only going to reinforce the perception of desperately trying to be like the big boys. That's not a good image around the world for a league that is trying to make it on its own, in its own way. It's certainly not going to help the rest of the world take MLS more seriously.

    That said, I love the logo - nice and simple, even if it does have a striking similarity to Real Zaragosa.

    (Oh, and by the way, over here RSL stands for Returned Servicemen's Leagues - RSL clubs are where old people go to play bingo :p )
     
  13. bigbrooklynlou

    bigbrooklynlou New Member

    Oct 7, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY
    Dude. All sports teams have stupid names. Some more stupider than other, but all fairly lame.

    <b>Japanese Baseball Names</b>
    BayStars - Er ... ok. That name wouldn't last 5 minutes in the US. One letter change and you got a chant for the opposition....

    BlueWave - Another classic.

    Buffaloes - Almost South Parkian in its nature. Gooooo Cooows

    Carp - Mmm. Thats good Carp.

    Dragons - Ok. One cool name.

    Fighters - Another cool name.

    Giants - The Japanese version of the Tokyo Yankees. Here are the Japanese taking on the name of a baseball team from the people that conquered them. At least the Spanish never invaded Utah.

    Hawks - Another cool name. Violent birds are cool.

    Lions - Violent mammals are cool too.

    Marines - Now heres a VERY cool name. Considering how the Marines chewed them up in WWII, it may have raised a few eye brows when it was selected.

    Swallows - See Bay Stars. The name is a bit loaded.

    Tigers - Another cool violent mammal.

    So all in all, the Japanese baseball teams have a few bad names. Does anyone really want to cheer for a Carp or a Wave?

    Someone mentioned that theres not much to names anyway. I root for the Mets. What the hell is a Met?

    As for Japanese soccer team names ... Some samples.

    FC Tokyo - Ripoff. Lam-oo. Why not FC Dallas, or DC United. Wait a sec ...

    Jef United Ichihara - Lets go Jef. Lets go Jef. Gooooooo Jefffffff,

    Kashima Antlers - Gotta love them Antlers ...

    Kashiwa Reysol - Anyone say Japan's ReAL??

    Kyoto Purple Sanga - I don't know what a Sanga is, but its purple, and it will kick your ass.

    Nagoya Grampus Eight - Now here's a cool name in a drunk off saki sort of way.

    Sapporo - Which brings up the point that we don't have any teams named after makers of alcholic products? The Colorodo Coors coulda been huge.

    Shimizu S Pulse - Almost as good as 'The Burn'

    Yokohama Marinos - Die Maliney die! Damn those Marines left an impression on the Japanese psyche ...

    As for Russian Soccer team names ...

    Zenit Saint Petersburg - The Zeniths. Ok. nothing special but not MetroStars (damn my team has a sucky name)

    Lokomotiv Moskva - Cool name. Locomotives are cool.

    CSKA Moscow - The ReAL SLC of the former USSR

    Dinamo Moskva - Not bad. Dynamo's are at least an active symbol.

    Krilya Sovyetov Samara - i.e. The Soviet Wings. Wings, folks. Not the whole bird, just the wings. No hot sauce either.

    Shinnik Yaroslavl - i.e. "The TIre Makers". Anyone feel bad about their team name now??? Considering how some of the Russian teams are also "Cement Mixers", "Labor", and "People's Team", we shouldn't complain.
     
  14. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd add to the stupid name list:

    Mighty Ducks
    Horn Frogs
    Zips
     
  15. bigbrooklynlou

    bigbrooklynlou New Member

    Oct 7, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY
    I forgot about the Might Ducks. Damn what a really bad name.

    As for team names for SLC, I was hoping for the Salt Lake Cannibals. It has this whole Donner Party-esque ring to it ....
     
  16. Rev-eler

    Rev-eler Member

    Feb 13, 2000
    San Francisco
    you know why?.....its an embarrasment for the entire league. there's an actual reason why many of the football sides in spain were given the real title. there's absolutely no reason for something as stupid as this....especially in light of the fact that the name was next to last in the 'unofficial' poll on the website. i'd say, unless someone was majorly stuffing the box....it wasn't even a name you all wanted in the first place.

    god, first you got those braniacs in dallas saying we are now naming our 'soccer' team dallas 'f'c. anyone notice that the 'f' stands for 'football' and not one time in any of their press releases to they actually use that word....they constantly use 'soccer'. you know, 'sc' isn't so uncommon around the world (although its more in the vein of 'sporting' club). now, we get the double embarrasment of having a ray-al? again, a name you guys didn't even want? pathetic. a joke before the team even takes the field.

    who cares if you win more games than some other 'established' mls side next year (probably mine)....still doesn't mean your branding isn't any less silly in the eyes of soccer fans abroad as well as here in the u.s. way to go there.
     
  17. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    Sapporo is the city. The club name is Consadole Sapporo - I have no idea what a Consadole is.
    It's short for New York Metropolitans. Because New York is a... metropolitan city.
    I don't get it. Are you suggesting that CSKA Moscow was not affiliated with the Central Red Army?
     
  18. the cup

    the cup Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Lets cry about it, shall we?

    http://www.celebritytrendz.com/postcards/postcards/Babies/Baby_Crying.jpg
     
  19. lkgf09

    lkgf09 Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another horrible name is the Bobcats.
     
  20. mls2atl

    mls2atl Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    its named after the owner bob johnson and it complements the carolina panthers and north carolina is known to have a large bobcat population in the western mountain region
     
  21. bigbrooklynlou

    bigbrooklynlou New Member

    Oct 7, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY
    I never liked the Metropolitans as a name even though I do love that mess of a team. Its the baseball equivalent of the Columbus Crew. Cause ya'know Columbus has Crews.
     
  22. PsychedelicCeltic

    PsychedelicCeltic New Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    San Francisco/London
    And some people here wonder why a large proportion of America's football fans will have nothing to do with MLS.

    Salt Lake City FC was great, traditional and it's Salt Lake City anyway. Salt Lake Saints FC was EVEN BETTER..

    Real Salt Lake..god, MLS should have stepped in and shot that down.

    The crest isn't bad though.
     
  23. Metros Striker10

    Metros Striker10 New Member

    Jul 7, 2001
    Planet Earth
    Just when MLS looked like they running away with the show and starting to become professional, it's ALL gone. They're basing THEIR league with the history of OTHER teams and leagues!! First they put a Mexican based league in LA so they can compete with arguably most successful team in MLS. Now they're are using a traditional La Liga name? What are they thinking?!?! I came to know that this rumor became official by reading the press release on ESPN.com. They had to say that Real is pronounced RAY-al. Is it just me, or does that suggest that they are going to have one heck of hard time promoting this team? Who the heck knows what Real means? Why would someone want to follow a team that has based themselves on the history of a powerhouse like Real Madrid? They look like a bunch of copycats to me.
     
  24. aosthed

    aosthed Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    40º30' N 111º52' W
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    It's a little bit like complaining about how FAKE (or ReAL) the neighbors breast augmentation is... in the end, it may not be real, but it doesn't look bad either! :eek:
     
  25. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is fine. Except the Donner Pass is in Truckee, California.

    Exactly. The folks in Utah who are upset are entitled to be upset for now. But if they decide they're going to buy tickets anyway, then it doesn't matter. And those who won't ever buy a ticket at Rice-Eccles or their new place if and when they get it built aren't really relevant, either. And I include myself in that group, because I don't think it was a particularly good choice.
     

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