2016 Preseason Catch-All Thread

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by JasonMa, Jan 22, 2016.

  1. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
  2. Waterboy66

    Waterboy66 Member

    Jan 16, 2016
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    There's no fairy tale ending for this situation....the best case scenario right now is that we have to overpay mediocre player(s) to come here and deal with this mess. I would be happy for the Rapids to prove me wrong, but I can't see it happening.
     
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  3. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is fair, I get it: splashy, high-profile signing worthy of Sports Center; jersey sales; a face on billboards; the marketing department gleefully answering calls, etc. The fear is that it is only him. If it is Howard plus Pulido (with a good attitude) and maybe another forward in Jan/Feb, maybe this works out.
     
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  4. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Not sure how Howard in July moves us up from the bottom of the Western Conference, even a record breaking streak of clean sheets* for a record breaking streak of 0 - 0 draws will not yield the points needed at that point to climb the cellar steps.

    * (as if w/ current personnel in front of him)
     
  5. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Howard is the leader / inspiration that the defense needs, maybe we should just hire him to be the "defensive coordinator"

    I'm a huge Howard fan and a long-time Everton fan and I value and respect everything he has done for the Nats and for the Blues. At the same time, signing him would not be part of a positive strategy for the rebuilding of the Rapids, rather a short-term seemingly desperate move because we have allocation money burning a hole in our pocket and need to have some "name" coming into the new season.

    Tim has helped create soccer moments that I won't forget - standing in O'Brien's bar in Boulder in 2010 watching him huck the ball to Donovan to start the attack that won the Algeria match is one of those examples. But I don't want him here because of what he's done in the past.
     
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  6. Virginian

    Virginian Member

    Sep 23, 1999
    Denver, Co
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think folks over-estimate the soccer aspect and under-estimate the Colorado factor. Denver is a great city. Soccer is essentially a 4hr a day job which leaves plenty of time with family in a wonderful city with a wonderful climate.
     
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  7. Sports Yak

    Sports Yak Member+

    Jul 17, 2007
    Lakewood
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I agree with you about Colorado as a great place to live, but great players almost always have a tremendous desire to win. And it would be hard for any player to think the Rapids will compete for a title any time soon.
     
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  8. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Oh ye of little faith:
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  9. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clearly you know where my focus was, it was Conor O'Neill's, not O'Brien's......
     
  10. SoccaJ

    SoccaJ Member

    Colorado Rapids
    Jun 25, 2007
    Firestone, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you have a point, to an extent, but I think we as fans have a strong tendency to overestimate what winning means to professional athletes. First and foremost these guys are trying to carve out a decent living so their top priorities are always how can I advance my career and maximize the return in the limited time I am likely to be a professional athlete. I really think we all (eg, Fans) put way more emphasis on how winning plays into the decision algorithm than the athletes themselves do. They are trying to do a job and earn money doing it.

    Think of it this way, if Soccer Bob is offered a contract with Club A and Club B and both contracts and situations are relatively equal (guaranteed money, length of contract, potential incentives, playing opportunity, etc.) but Club A is clearly set up for a championship run while Club B is, well, the Rapids....then yes, I agree that the professional athlete is likely to pick Club A. But I can promise you that very few athletes will pick Club A if Club B is offering more money and a better "situation" for the individual athlete and their career.

    I think winning to a professional athlete is kind of like what our employer's success is to us as "regular, every day employees" - we all want the company we work for to succeed so we can continue to make money, have job security, move up, etc......but, in the end, if our company is the "Best in the World" at what they do or just "Good Enough To Keep My Job" we don't really care much. Working for the best in the world just isn't the highest priority when it comes to paying the bills and keeping food on the table.
     
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  11. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And just like we thought, Pulido rejected loan deal to Rapids per story and posts. RFO just doesn't get that it's one thing to treat their fans this way the players talk and remember what organizations are good. The only way to fix this now is to blow up the whole RFO and even KSE must see that clearly now. Problem is how many more players will it cost us while they wait for their contracts to run out.
     
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  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually if you follow the link to teh tweet and then the link in the tweet to the story (and if Google Translate didn't fail me) there's nothing in the story cited about Pulido rejecting the Rapids. It just talks about how his good play the last couple of weeks will make it harder to get a deal done.

    Now maybe there's another source that is telling the tweeter than Pulido rejected it but there's no "in print" reporting of that.
     
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  13. Bridgeman

    Bridgeman Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Feb 25, 2006
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He can live here when he's retired which will be a much longer time than his career. Not a factor. Pro athletes play for money and championships.
     
  14. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Sports Yak

    Sports Yak Member+

    Jul 17, 2007
    Lakewood
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I agree with you that athletes usually select the team that offers the most money. But given that (and we all admit the Rapids are not known as big spenders), next is winning. For example, the Rockies always have to overpay for free agents. The Nuggets never get anyone to sign. However, the Broncos often get free agent discounts (or at least win the salary equivalents) because they are a first-class, winning organization.
     
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  16. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    I'd love to see the data and analysis behind this.
     
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  17. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rapids interested in T&T fullback Mikeli Williams?

     
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  18. Quinn 33

    Quinn 33 Member+

    Apr 25, 2003
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now there's a Bravo-tier signing the club might actually get done. Can't wait.
     
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  19. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, at least they're actually targeting the right position for once, though a guy struggling for playing time in Guatemala can't be relied on as a MLS starter in 5.5 weeks...
     
  20. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #220 m vann, Jan 27, 2016
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2016
    Interesting.......... I believe this is the RB that had a good game against the US and Guatemala during the Nov. WCQ's. If he wore #17 it's definitely him. He was strong, built like an ox and and had some wheels. He muscled up Altidore and Zardes a handful of times. He reminded me of a taller Marvel Wynne. This dude was probably close to 6'2" and wasn't shabby with the ball at his feet. I thought that #17 looked good. Definitely worth a trial and seeing where it goes. There is some decent Caribbean talent that can be had.
     
  21. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    fyp
     
  22. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO

    I doesn't count without throwing away the draft first.
     
  23. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's him: http://us.soccerway.com/players/mekeil-williams/96922/
    Multiple caps for T&T; experience in Danish, Polish, T&T and Guatemalan leagues ... interesting
     
  24. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Slightly amused in that 1) you always seem to have seen a guy play regardless of league he is in 2) it's always seems to be a "glowing endorsement" whereas real life with Rapids their performance is usually the "meh" to opposite of your view.
     
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