2016 Superdraft

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  1. SoccaJ

    SoccaJ Member

    Colorado Rapids
    Jun 25, 2007
    Firestone, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yay! Now we might have enough players on our roster to have an intra-squad scrimmage! ;)
     
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  2. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In 6 draft picks we got a GK, three defenders, a defensive mid, and a forward
     
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  3. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Does this surprise you at all? The Rapids love them some defenders.....

    I wonder what the next regime will love. Next year (or even mid-this year) we will be getting all offense and shedding defenders in order to "fit the Rapids system".

    rod.
     
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  4. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We need to see the height listings of all to see if they follow last years MO.
     
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  5. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    4th round forward sounds like a starter right out of the box ... and then eventually he can light it up in Charlotte.
     
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  6. zapem_10

    zapem_10 Member

    Nov 25, 2009
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sad thing is that a 4th round forward has about as much chance of being the Rapids top scorer as anyone else on the roster.
     
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  7. Jimmydinho

    Jimmydinho Member+

    Jul 6, 2007
    Denver, CO, USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well it sure worked for, what? like 3 months last year?
    this "organization" is such a joke.
     
  8. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, let me see if I can get this straight.
    • The Rapids traded a 2017 second round pick to Philadelphia to re-acquire their overpriced castoff rent-a-keeper Zac MacMath.
    • The Rapids traded GAM that they may not have yet had on hand to Seattle to acquire an over-the-hill declining mid who later got Shish-Kebobed by a former lingerie league football playing beauty queen.
    • The Rapids traded the overall #2 pick, which could have landed a real, live, breathing Starting XI player, for money they have no clue how to spend and for Zach Pfeffer, a 21-year-old project player from the third worst club in the MLS, and who scored three goals in five years.
    • The Rapids traded TAM that they also may not have had on hand to the Gals for the 12th overall pick in the draft. They then traded this pick and the 22nd overall pick and the second place position in allocation money to Chicago for the 15th and 33rd overall picks and the top position in allocation money. The Rapids then traded the 33rd overall pick to FCD for the 37th and 58th overall picks. The Rapids actually kept the 15th overall pick, which they used to select Emmanuel Appiah. The Rapids used the 37th pick to acquire Dennis Castillo (who may actually be a bit of a sleeper). The Rapids used the 58th pick to acquire Bradley Kamdem, whom the Rapids may have thought was a forward, but whose college thinks is a defender, whioch would make him an excellent bookend for Axel Sjoberg.
    • The Rapids traded a solid MLS starting keeper to Toronto FC for TAM (that may have been used to complete the trade with the Gals), a conditional Toronto first round pick in 2017, and Toronto's highest pick in the third round of this draft, which Toronto acquired from Seattle, and which became Rapids selection Javan Torre.
    • The Rapids (allegedly) flirted with using GAM to acquire Tim Howard, with no indication from Howard that he was even slightly interested in the flirting from Colorado.
    • The Rapids then used their highest natural third round pick to acquire Chris Froschauer, a keeper who wasn't on anybody's radar. This leaves the Rapids with a keeper depth chart of MacMath-Berner-Froschauer, rather than Irwin-MacMath-Berner or Howard-anybody, effectively fixing a non-problem by substantially downgrading keepers.
    • The Rapids used their natural fourth round pick to acquire John Manga, a forward who may be an international player.
    Unless I am seriously missing something, the Rapids broke a keeper position that didn't need fixing, haven't fixed any problems on the back line, acquired even more generic defensive players, drafted for quantity rather than quality, accumulated GAM that may be useless, and did absolutely nothing to enhance scoring.

    Grade: F-
     
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  9. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The league wouldn't have allowed the Rapids to trade money they don't have, I don't know where you're getting that part of it. Otherwise that about sums it up.
     
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  10. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Per MLS rules, TAM can be drawn forward from succeeding years and can be traded.
    "each MLS club will receive $100,000 per year for the next five years ($500,000 total) in additional funds, referred to as Targeted Allocation Money, to invest in their roster outside of the player salary budget. "
    "Clubs may trade their Targeted Allocation Money to another club."
    "MLS clubs may bring forward a portion or all of their allotted Targeted Allocation Money, up to $500,000, to be used in a single season on up to three players."​

    Since the MLS keeps the TAM totals more secret than Area 51, we don't know how much TAM the Rapids had or traded or received. There would have been nothing wrong with the Rapids borrowing, trading, and repaying from later acquired TAM, using the TAM account essentially as a savings account to bridge a check.
     
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  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok yeah, I see what you mean. I thought you mean they had to go trade for TAM from another team in order to complete the trade, which wouldn't be allowed. But yes, they could trade away their future TAM if they wanted.

    They can not do that with GAM though (because there's no guarantee of future GAM), which you also suggested we traded without having it.
     
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  12. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Rapids receive the MLS allotment of $150,000 plus some GAM for missing the playoffs. My statement was based on the fact that we do not know WHEN the MLS funds that GAM. It would have been a fully earned right, but may not have been paid yet.
     
  13. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My understanding from previous history (Goff about DC United) is the non-playoff teams received significantly (in order of suckiness) more TAM then all other teams, who are then followed by CCL qualified teams.
     
  14. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you mean GAM, not TAM and yes, that is correct.
     
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  15. kucsdat

    kucsdat Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    Bravo on the 3rd and 4th round picks:

    “We felt all along that this draft gave us the opportunity to strengthen our roster in important positions,” said VP of Soccer Operations and Technical Director, Paul Bravo.
     
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  16. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meanwhile 2-3 perennial playoff teams passed on their picks in these rounds.
     
  17. kucsdat

    kucsdat Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    I know ;) Either, he is saying our roster was so average starting out that even 3rd and 4thr round picks improve it, or he is saying that Rapids is the one team who can find diamonds in the rough.
     
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  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Rapids have had I would say greater than average success in the supplemental draft historically.
     
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  19. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Plus they had a meeting! No worries.
     
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  20. AvaiBunton

    AvaiBunton Member

    Oct 24, 2010
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any ideas when this supplemental draft is taking place or did it already? I get lost in the number of MLS drafts...as I'm sure the rapids have too!
     
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  21. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was Tuesday
     
  22. AvaiBunton

    AvaiBunton Member

    Oct 24, 2010
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So rounds 3 & 4 were this? I thought this was the Superdraft??? D@mn you MLS and your non-sense

    I thought there was another draft that occured after the waiver draft we got Azira??
     
  23. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #223 JasonMa, Jan 22, 2016
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2016
    Waiver Draft
    Re-Entry Draft
    Superdraft Rounds 1&2
    Superdraft Rounds 3&4

    When teams contract, Dispersal Draft
    When teams expand: Expansion Draft

    When the league had more rounds in the draft: Superdraft & Supplemental Draft
     
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  24. AvaiBunton

    AvaiBunton Member

    Oct 24, 2010
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh MLS, how I love thee and thy craziness!
     

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