The Jurgen Klinsmann's coaching Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by bungadiri, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you?
     
  2. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Here ya go:

    Roma opening 5 academies in USA:

    http://www.football-italia.net/76001/roma-open-usa-youth-academies

    From the article:

    "......
    “AS Roma has announced the addition of five elite U.S youth soccer academies to its growing USA Academy programme.

    “Those clubs – Crossfire Premier, Lonestar Soccer Club, Players Development Academy (PDA), Real So Cal and St. Louis Scott Gallagher – join the most comprehensive U.S youth academy program among foreign professional soccer clubs.

    “The AS Roma USA Academy is a unique programme that prioritises best practices in all areas and has a particular emphasis on player and coach development. A principal objective of the program is to identify and cultivate U.S. players that have the ability to one day compete for AS Roma at its highest level. There have already been multiple USA Academy players across different age groups that have been invited to train in Rome with AS Roma’s youth teams.

    “For the U.S. academies, a partnership with AS Roma allows for accelerated player development, broadened exposure and access to specialised support.”

    President James Pallotta also commented on this new organisation for the Lupi.

    “We are thrilled to welcome these five elite US clubs to the AS Roma family,” he said, as quoted in the statement. “We are extremely proud of our USA Academy program that continues to distinguish itself from what other professional soccer clubs are doing in the US.

    “It is a special nationwide partnership network that delivers real value to each of our clubs and we are in constant communication with each club in a collaborative way to find innovative ways to make the program even stronger......”
     
  3. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Surprising, given your history here...
     
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  4. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    This sounds pretty ideological to me!
     
  5. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Hehehe. You know, I was one of the most moderate posters here until this summer. It took an awful long time, and the evidence really had to pile head high before I began to beat the Fire Klinsmann drum.

    You know what the funny thing is: I want this team to do well. So much so that I'll cheer on results that convince our president to keep this historically awful manager (and that's where we are at this point).
     
  6. gmonn

    gmonn Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    Is anybody hellbent on keeping him? Let's hear from you if you're hellbent on keeping him. To me change is fun so bring on the next. Would be entertaining to have Klinsmann coaching another national team against ours. I just don't expect improvement from the next coach. People here will jump to say improvement has happened, but that will be a rollercoaster and hopefully he'll threaten their egos a little less.
     
  7. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Threaten whose egos?
     
  8. gmonn

    gmonn Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    The lifers here.
     
  9. Right Foot Planted

    Aug 11, 2007
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  10. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me guess, these are all from just the last week or so...
     
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  11. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Houston Hoya Fan is all about" throwing shit", and then denying any responsibility and getting Bungadiri to whack those who throw some back. He's a Jurgen One, alright.
     
  12. WrmBrnr

    WrmBrnr Member+

    Apr 12, 2001
    San Carlos
    Is this going to be different than SSA Chelsea clubs throughout the Southeast or is this a genuine attempt to develop beyond just joining the pay to play gravy train?

    I investigated SSA as an option for my kids when we moved down South, and it appears to me, that beyond all of the talk of accelerated development, and professional training opportunities, it was more of a way for Chelsea to get involved with the pay to play gravy train. It was no different than many of the other clubs near by. The quality of coaching was no different either. I don't blame Chelsea for doing it, nor do I blame Roma - money is money.

    I suppose that since Roma has an American owner they may be more likely to try to develop American talent.
     
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  13. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You sound so reasonable.
     
  14. gmonn

    gmonn Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    Your posts are like fortune cookies.
     
  15. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yours are like shit sandwiches.

    IN BED.
     
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  16. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Who knows? But another set of academies run by a Serie A club with an American owner can't be bad for development can it?
     
  17. gmonn

    gmonn Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    Or poetry. No, tweets!
     
  18. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With all due respect to whatever it is you think you are doing, here's the sadness:

    When you throw out as argument/proof/diarrhea some imagined future ("people here will jump to say improvement has happened") and then claim that the recognition of this future will hopefully cause the imagined jumpers to feel less ego-threatened by the person whom they prefer not be manager (what a mouthful!), all you are actually doing is talking about your own threatened ego and your need.

    The short replies to you are because I don't like to work for free.

    Is that twat enough for you?
     
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  19. Ironbound

    Ironbound Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    Just when I think this thread can't get any worse...
     
  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    The Mexican style and the US style can't be any more different. USA belongs to the English school, the athletic runners waiting for the long pass from the back. Mexico was 'created' by Argentine coaching, and they have the same need for the "finta," the combination & overall astute team play, where precise short-passing is a must.

    You cannot find two philosophies more different in the world of soccer, and it shows. Just like American-born & -taught players have a hard time fitting in MX clubs, the MX players who learned to play among other Hispanics in the USA are a poor fit to our NT's style.

    For a Mexican, a player who can't dribble is unthinkable. Most of our guys can't dribble for their lives. On the other hand, we have very little use for guys who stop and think (the famous "pausa"), unless they can do it in a fraction of a second. When we have a couple of Mexico-trained guys in the team, their style kills out momentum.

    And, since our guys can't combine or dribble or "fintear" like they do, the MX types cannot do anything, their game depends on a team able to do all those things, to a player.
     
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  21. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So there's a technical CONCACAF review of the Gold Cup? I had no idea this even existed!! And what's sad is even that document identifies what several have about our Jurgen coached team:

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    Full document here:
    http://issuu.com/concacaf2013/docs/gold_cup_2015_statistical_analysis_

    Oh my gosh, there are some GEMS in the document. In a good way, and in a not so good way. See the slam against us not having any creativity. We "work hard."
     
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  22. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    The experts have spoken. No managerial problems here. ;)
     
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  23. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn't call these guys experts for sure (based on what I've read of the document so far there's a lot of CONCACAF writing that's perplexing), but there are still some nuggets in here.
     
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  24. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I love the "selecting and maintaining a stable line-up for an event of this level and responsibility" bit. An event that he came right out and said was a priority.

    Brilliant hire, Sunil. (Or re-hire, I should say. With a raise and expanded responsibilities, too.) Brilliant.

    EDIT: What's more is that practically everything that is highlighted as a "to improve" was an area that Klinsmann has stressed as of particular importance from the beginning. This is really where we get down to brass tacks and say that, in the end, Klinsmann is simply doing an ineffectual, awful job.
     
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  25. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    but bruh.....the big picture.
     

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