2018 FIFA WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS - CONCACAF [R]

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  1. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Horrible communication between Wes Morgan and goalie Kerr causes Panama to go up 2-0 with an innocnt Alberto Quintero cross.

    Panama 2-0 Jamaica in Kingston
     
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  2. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Canada open up the score in BC Place, Wil Johnson with the header home from Junior Hoilett. I think it's Cyle Larin's gol tho... it is.
     
  3. DaniChandler

    DaniChandler Member

    Jun 9, 2013
    Panama Canal
    Club:
    Cruzeiro Belo Horizonte
    Nat'l Team:
    Panama
    Full time in di office. JAM 0-2 PANAMAAAAA.

    Excellent result for bolillo and his boys.
     
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  4. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Full Updates:

    Finished:
    USA 6-1 SVG
    Guatemala 1-2 TyT
    Jamaica 0-2 Panama
    Costa Rica 1-0 Haiti
    Mexico 3-0 El Salvador

    Halftime:
    Canada 1-0 Honduras - Gol de Cyle Larin
     
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  5. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
     
  7. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    Some of the tweets from that account seem unnecessarily hostile especially after a win

     
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  8. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    Pretty much the only country Canadian soccer fans are hostile to is Honduras. There is a lot of background. For instance in 2008 in Montreal, there were fights and violence and bad things that Canadian fans blamed on the large number of Honduras fans at the game. Many haven't forgot that.

    I don't hold those views because I wasn't there, but if there is one country I am tired of losing to, it's Honduras.
     
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  9. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can we not embed tweets from random fans? Doesn't seem to serve much purpose.
     
  10. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    I thought it was funny he was pointing out the humble pie the Honduran players ate after being cocky due to the previous 8-1 score line.

    If you didn't like it, fair enough, but I don't care.
     
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  11. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't care. It's just off-topic and needlessly flames a fanbase.
     
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  12. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. EAB206BLUES

    EAB206BLUES Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huge win! I am bias but I thought this was the most impressive victory in the first day of qualifiers. Hopefully they can get a victory against the Ticos at home but that'll be a tough test. Never the less good start to the campaign!
     
  14. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the probabilities for Friday's games based on the Bet365 odds:

    St. Vincent and the Grenadines win: 10.8%
    Draw: 18.3%
    Trinidad and Tobago win: 70.9%

    Haiti win: 34.8%
    Draw: 28.6%
    Panama win: 36.6%

    Jamaica win: 34.8%
    Draw: 30.5%
    Costa Rica win: 34.8%
    The odds are exactly equal, and it adds up to 100.1% due to rounding.

    El Salvador win: 38.5%
    Draw: 29.6%
    Honduras win: 31.9%

    Guatemala win: 12.2%
    Draw: 19.2%
    USA win: 68.6%

    Canada win: 12.1%
    Draw: 21.0%
    Mexico win: 66.9%
     
  15. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the probabilities for Tuesday's games based on the Bet365 odds:

    Trinidad and Tobago win: 89.2%
    Draw: 7.2%
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines win: 3.6%

    USA win: 78.2%
    Draw: 16.3%
    Guatemala win: 5.5%

    Honduras win: 59.6%
    Draw: 26.0%
    El Salvador win: 14.4%

    Panama win: 61.5%
    Draw: 25.1%
    Haiti win: 13.4%

    Costa Rica win: 61.5%
    Draw: 25.1%
    Jamaica win: 13.4%

    Mexico win: 83.3%
    Canada win: 11.8%
    Draw: 5.0%
    It adds up to 100.1% due to rounding.
     
  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
    Staff Member

    Olimpia
    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    US
    Lol
     
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  19. oliveandblue

    oliveandblue Member

    Jul 7, 2015
    United States
    Club:
    DC United
    Beating us once allows the media to consider it a "fluke win because the USA weren't interested".

    Get something from this game tonight... ...and there can be no question of focus or quality - you're the better team.
     
  20. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you post your e-mail address or start a conversation (private message) with me and tell me your e-mail address, I'll e-mail you a spreadsheet I made with the 81 (3*3*3*3) scenarios for each group. To summarize, here is how many scenarios out of 81 each team will advance in (ranges of amounts are given because of scenarios where the goal differential tiebreaker would be necessary):

    Mexico: 81
    Canada: 30 to 43
    Honduras: 28 to 43
    El Salvador: 7 to 13

    Costa Rica: 80 to 81 (there's 1 scenario of a three-way tie for first where they could be eliminated)
    Panama: 60 to 72
    Jamaica: 9 to 21
    Haiti 0 to 1 (the only way they can advance is a three-way tie for second)

    Trinidad and Tobago: 74 to 79
    USA: 49 to 61
    Guatemala: 24 to 36
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines: 0

    I know that the 81 scenarios are not equally likely, so Team X could advance in more scenarios than Team Y and Team Y could still be more likely to advance.
     
  21. Trini_Boi

    Trini_Boi Member

    T&T vs Guatemala Sept 2nd in Port of Spain. Because of the table standings, Guatemala is in a must win position while T&T playing at home and leading the table with 10 points only need a draw. I am expecting a win at home for my country :)
    http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=64729.0
     
  22. Outburstz

    Outburstz Member

    Jun 22, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure you will
     
  23. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    @EvanJ or others. As for the upcoming Saturday Hex draw, statistically will we have any idea the matchups by that time? Could we back into it given the current standings?
     
  24. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say that only half of the teams are more or less guaranteed: Mexico as A1, Costa Rica as B1 and Panama as B2 (the latter two could very well change in September). Right now, history aside, A2 is a toss-up between Honduras and Canada, while C1 and C2 will likely be decided on the very last day (with the US hosting T&T in Jacksonville).
     
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  25. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.concacaf.com/article/off...caf-qualifying-for-fifa-world-cup-russia-2018 says the draw is Friday, not Saturday. You called me into this topic and I didn't even know the draw was soon. I would think this is the first time the Hexagonal draw was done before the Semifinals ended. After the draw, you could use the standings to determine a bunch of possible scenarios. Here's the math:

    Group A: 3 scenarios
    Mexico is first
    Canada, Honduras, and El Salvador could all be second

    Group B: 7 scenarios
    1. Costa Rica first and Panama second
    2. Costa Rica first and Jamaica second
    3. Costa Rica first and Haiti second
    4. Panama first and Costa Rica second
    5. Panama first and Jamaica second
    6. Jamaica first and Costa Rica second
    7. Jamaica first and Panama second

    Group C: 6 scenarios
    USA, Trinidad and Tobago, and Guatemala can all advance by finishing first or second with either of the other two advancing also.

    3*7*6 = 126 possibilities. You can try to write them all out if you want, but it would take a while. If you're just interested in one country or one matchup, there are fewer possibilities. For example, after the draw there will be two possible matchdays for USA hosting Mexico and vice versa. In the above, I included all possibilities even if they required something ridiculous like St. Vincent and the Grenadines beating the USA.
     

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