Climbing the Mountain: Bob Bradley at Stabæk

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  1. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    Great post.

    Can you guess what thought about the quality of your post I am hiding here?
     
  2. Sevens7ar

    Sevens7ar Member

    Apr 17, 2014
    Club:
    Stabaek IF
    Judging by this post your standards are so low you must think my post holds all the secrets of the universe encypted in a code you can't comprehend, and in awe you're starting a church to worship me as a god.

    Fun fact: Turns out I was right though; it has in fact been confirmed that he was indeed serious. I guess my post was spot on, but I wouldn't say it was great. You don't need to be great to understand basic things.
     
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  3. failure

    failure Member

    Aug 11, 2014
    Club:
    DC United
    Ya'll need to learn about the Ignore option on this site...
     
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  4. bmbersoccer5

    bmbersoccer5 Member

    Jul 29, 2009
    Cincinnati
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Over two years, Bob has had a pretty successful run at the club. The club was good for Bob in terms of the opportunity and experience, and Bob was good for the club by most measuring sticks of managers.

    If he chooses to move on this year, I'll remember his time in Norway fondly and continue to pull for Stabaek to win and occasionally play as them in FIFA.






    Why can't everyone just get along :thumbsdown:
     
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  5. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    Acknowledged and opted for.
     
  6. @ringo

    @ringo Member

    Jan 6, 2014
    Club:
    Stabaek IF
    No, he did not steer us down. He tok a job no one else wanted starting the season with 6 players in the squad and no money what so ever. He was never gonna survive in league.

    Second season, turning tings around, rebuilding the squad, turning the mindset of a bunch of disillusioned young players, giving them confidence, composing an interesting team with lots of talent, winning a promotion. In retrospect probably one of the best seasons in the clubs history.

    Did not look that way at the time, becasue the football they played wasn't all that great. So looking back at it now, a couple of years later, I do not think we gave Belsvik enough credit for that season. He was heavily critizised along the way, even booing from the supporter stand, which is quite unheard of in Stabæk (however not incommon elsewere).

    Sums up your post rather nicely.
     
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  7. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Did he lose his motivation because Bob didn't give him a chance, or did Bob not give him a chance because he lacked motivation?
     
  8. Jeff Bradley

    Jeff Bradley Member+

    Jun 3, 1999
    Manasquan, NJ on the beautiful Jersey Shore.
    Club:
    Le Havre AC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting thread. I'm glad I know the whole truth.
     
  9. Sevens7ar

    Sevens7ar Member

    Apr 17, 2014
    Club:
    Stabaek IF
    Or, at least 1/3 of the truth. There are three sides to every story, remember: "Yours", "mine" and the truth.

    Even if you're standing in the middle of something, you can't be completely aware of everyone else's point of view. Nobody's perfect. I don't claim to know the whole truth either, by the way, or nearly as much of it as Bob does for that matter. But I do know some things of which not even Bob is aware. I'm sure he wouldn't even agree with all of them if he was - because if he did, they probably wouldn't have happened in the first place. That does not make them less real, however, that just makes them part of someone else's side of the story, which is equally valid.

    This path only leads to the dark side.

    At least for now, I will simply end with this: I am much more happy this year than the last, and if you look back I don't think you will find that @@ringo or I have complained much about Bob this season.
     
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  10. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a history professor of mine said when a student indicated she was in class to learn the truth;

    "if you're looking for truth, take philosophy."
     
  11. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you ever NOT regret reading BigSoccer when your family comes up? I can't see how you do it, I'm sure I'd wanna choke some people.
     
  12. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And as I posted before, there was nothing in his past that indicated he could perform competently at the top division, yet Ringo still tried to pass him off as an example of Bob's "wasting of resources".


    It seems like you guys have set up a no win situation for Bob. If the team struggles without him next season, it'll be because he set them up for failure. If they do great without him, it means he wasn't that great anyway.
     
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  13. Jeff Bradley

    Jeff Bradley Member+

    Jun 3, 1999
    Manasquan, NJ on the beautiful Jersey Shore.
    Club:
    Le Havre AC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a lot of gibberish.

    No coach is universally liked. Not by fans, players, media. But great coaches can't concern themselves with popularity. They concern themselves with leading a group of men.

    It's been a great season. Hopefully we've got four more points in us.
     
  14. Sevens7ar

    Sevens7ar Member

    Apr 17, 2014
    Club:
    Stabaek IF
    He was a regarded as a very talented teenager and signed by Heerenveen when he was only 19-20 years. I believe he struggled with injuries setting him back though, and for that reason things didn't work out in the Netherlands. He was not a nobody; he was a promising prospect that had a bit of misfortune and needed a reboot. When he got that in Stabæk, he proved he had the potential to be a very effective fullback with his great left foot. I don't know too much about his past but I do know how he played for Stabæk. And I do know that he was the only leftback we had after young prospect Lange was sent away.

    The wasting of resources is not only not using Timmi Johansen, our most efficient player the previous season, it's also the consequences that follow. Trondsen is 5th in the league in assists this season as an attacking midfielder - despite playing for a very weak team that effectively played without a proper striker for the better part of the season. In comparison, he had 0 assists playing as a fullback for Stabæk last year - he simply did not function as a fullback, not in defence and not in attack. We did not only waste Johansen, we gave away one of our top prospects, Trondsen as well as a consequence. That's two key players wasted for nothing in return. That's wasteful resource managment. Of course, it means nothing to a coach who only stays for two years but it hurts the club.
     
  15. scottinkc

    scottinkc Member

    Aug 14, 2001
    Kansas City, MO
    Oh, Jeffy, you're such a tease. If you have contradictory facts to present, present them.
     
  16. Jeff Bradley

    Jeff Bradley Member+

    Jun 3, 1999
    Manasquan, NJ on the beautiful Jersey Shore.
    Club:
    Le Havre AC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No interest in fighting anonymous folks.
     
  17. scottinkc

    scottinkc Member

    Aug 14, 2001
    Kansas City, MO
    Scott Powell, Kansas City Missouri. So what you got? Nothing?
     
  18. @ringo

    @ringo Member

    Jan 6, 2014
    Club:
    Stabaek IF
    So it seems like Bob has accepted an offer from Le-Havre.
     
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  19. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a bit of a mystery to me how when a player does not work out "Bob has wasted the resources."

    However, if one does "the Sporting Director becomes the MVP."

    This is a truly inside narrative that certainly only a few are privy to.
     
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  20. Jeff Bradley

    Jeff Bradley Member+

    Jun 3, 1999
    Manasquan, NJ on the beautiful Jersey Shore.
    Club:
    Le Havre AC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No problem with you Scott in KC. You're not an anonymous Stabaek "insider."
     
  21. Jeff Bradley

    Jeff Bradley Member+

    Jun 3, 1999
    Manasquan, NJ on the beautiful Jersey Shore.
    Club:
    Le Havre AC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bob didn't rate Tronsden as an attacking midfielder. Saw him as a fullback. That's a football decision and Tronsden let the club know he wanted out. So be it.

    Without Tronsden as its attacking midfielder, Stabaek were contending for league and cup titles. But the club felt it was more important to sell Dio. That's life, as well.
     
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  22. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
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  23. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    The Journey Continues. Each step is another milestone for an American manager in Europe.
     
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  24. @ringo

    @ringo Member

    Jan 6, 2014
    Club:
    Stabaek IF

    Yupp,

    However, We've not really been contending for the leauge title, RBK have had that in their back pocket since preseason. But we have been close enough to dream :)

    Besides, who knows, with Trondsen in midfield we could have been even closer...

    The notion that Trondsen would make a better fullback than midfielder is such an obvious mistake that I find it hard to believe that someone of Bobs experience would make it.

    And about beeing anonymous try googling @Ringo Stabæk ;)
     
  25. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.onceametro.com/2015/11/1...ey-agrees-terms-with-le-havre-ligue-2-stabaek

    Danish outlet BT is reporting Bob Bradley - once a Metro - has agreed terms with French club Le Havre, reportedly signing a contract to coach to the Ligue 2 outfit for one-and-a-half seasons. BT reports this rules Bradley out of the running to replace Denmark national team head coach Morten Olsen, and that the American also turned down Heerenven, 1860 Munich and Molde in favor of a move to France.


    Bradley is the hot coaching prospect of the moment, and has been linked to English clubs Sunderland and Aston Villa. Indeed, it was starting to feel as though any club or national team with a vacancy was a candidate for his services.


    Le Havre has yet to confirm the report, which broke in Denmark on Saturday but has been slow to gain great traction with other outlets. Bradley has become a darling of the rumor mill since his current contract - with Norwegian club Stabaek - neared its end and it became clear he was not minded to renew. The coach himself has occasionally spoken out to dismiss a rumor or two, though he has also made clear he has options to consider.


    Expect to hear this latest story quashed or confirmed shortly.


    And for those who speak Danish, havre at it.

    http://www.nettavisen.no/sport/fotball/dansk-avis---bob-bradley-har-fatt-ny-jobb/3423153911.html
     

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