2016 Player moves

Discussion in 'NWSL' started by Blaze20, Aug 31, 2015.

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  1. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it had to be worded that way. And we all know it's going to be Klingenberg.
     
  2. mamalia

    mamalia Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Cincinnati OH US
    I think this is an excellent chance for Hagen. Hope she is able to capitalize. I also did not recognize her poofy hair/bun-less.
     
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  3. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Actually no we don't. Now that Portland has been given power, every other team in the league has to be VERY careful that Portland doesn't pull a fast one and pick someone else. I mean, the way it had been construed before, everything seems like links in a chain. This seems more like a powder keg.
     
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  4. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    They can't control that now as Portland has the power. They may not even select a national team player. So Orlando may as yet still get two NT players.

    Either way, I want to know when it became ok to trade expansion draft picks. Why not just throw all this away and make it possible to buy players with cash?
     
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  5. ForeverLOST108

    ForeverLOST108 Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Orlando
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is true. It's also potentially very smart for Orlando to maybe have "leaked" Klingenberg's name to force the Klingenberg trade and potentially leave other Seattle players open in the expansion draft.
     
  6. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Because at least this way they can have effective free agency without officially breaking the single-entity facade?
     
  7. LucyFearsTheMorningStar

    Sep 27, 2015
    Club:
    Atlanta Beat
    Think it just shows how desperate NWSL was to have a team join this year.
     
  8. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    You are right it is a facade. I do not like facades.
     
  9. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    But from Seattle point of view this could actually work in their favor. With the Cox retirement, they now need a left back and got a quality one for relatively cheap. If they still lose two more players but get to keep Kling, I still consider that a win.
     
  10. ForeverLOST108

    ForeverLOST108 Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Orlando
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most definitely.
     
  11. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    25 more minutes and the list should be out...
     
  12. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A lot of this stuff gets worked out in advance. If a team promises one thing and then does another, it will piss off a lot of people, and hurt potential transactions in the future.
     
  13. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Like that matters in pro sports?
     
  14. mamalia

    mamalia Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Cincinnati OH US
    Yes, I am forgoing a trip to Costco to ensure I can monitor the "fun" in real time. Ridiculous :p. I am going to have to go back and read those rules in the meantime.
     
  15. BigData

    BigData Member+

    Feb 2, 2014
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    The protection lists must already be in. And the other teams had to be aware that it was possible to trade expansion picks. More specificially, I'm sure all (ok, maybe not Boston but most) were aware of the deal and how it would go down. Expansion drafts always work like this. Orlando made like four deals in the MLS expansion draft, even having Portland agree to pay half of Ricketts salary if Orlando would take him off their hands. So this is an unusal way to handle it, but I'm sure all parties were aware.

    So I would be shocked if Portland acquires anyone other than Kling with that first pick.
     
  16. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    You may be correct but I just want to observe the melt down if she doesn't
     
  17. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    True but where is the fun in that..
     
  18. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, it does. Even with established leagues, it matters more than people think.
     
  19. BigData

    BigData Member+

    Feb 2, 2014
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Ah, Blaze likes to watch things burn. :devilish:
     
  20. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I mean, yeah I'm expecting them to do so. Paulson definitely seems like he wants to do what's best to help NWSL grow. However, I also kinda see the Thorns organization as thinking they can get away with a lot.... It would be the first real drama NWSL has ever seen!
    Same here... Watching all other teams really, truly scramble for the first time to make sense of something would be highly engaging to watch.
    And give more justification for my dislike of Portland. X-D
     
  21. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paulson might come off as a jerk at times, but he's not dumb enough to pull a stunt like that.
     
  22. mamalia

    mamalia Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Cincinnati OH US
    We be waiting.........
     
  23. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    So, digging a little deeper, the Thorns' article on the trade says they get the first pick in the Expansion Draft, while the Pride article (and the Equalizer article) says it's "rights to" the first pick, which someone on EQ said that means Orlando still makes the pick, but then I guess that player would be instantly sent to Portland.... In which case, Orlando would alternatively have the opportunity to incredibly screw over Portland. But while I'm not convinced of the "rights" thing, it sounds even more convoluted than the alternative, it does fit more with the notion that the expansion picks themselves can't be traded.
     
  24. mamalia

    mamalia Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Cincinnati OH US
  25. BigData

    BigData Member+

    Feb 2, 2014
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    So, according to the Orlando release, Portland gets "only" the first pick in the expansion draft, first pick in the college draft and one internation slot for the next two seasons 2016 and 2017. No mention of allocation order or a second internation slot.
     

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