Who is MLS's top defender?

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Bajoro, Oct 2, 2002.

  1. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who gets Defender of the Year?

    And why?

    In San Jose, there was a groundswell of support for Wade Barrett, but then the San Jose season collapsed and many blame the defense (though not Wade).

    Who else is deserving?
     
  2. Rodan

    Rodan New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Providence
    Almost every team has someone:

    Chicago: Bocanegra, Brown, Curtin
    Dallas: Suarez, Morrow, Bonseu (wow!)
    Rapids: Mastroeni, Fraser
    LA: Califf, EZ, Lalas
    SJ: Barrett, Mulrooney
    KC: Garcia, McKeon
    C-bus: Denton, Clark (?)
    Revs (latter part of the season): Kante, Franchino
    NY: absolutely nobody


    Strangely enough, I'd give it to DC's Milton Reyes. I just don't think anyone comes close to this guy as a pure defender and all-round athlete. Also, keep in mind that when DC when on its big slide, it was not because they were giving up tons of goals, it was because they couldn't score.

    Flame on...
     
  3. chayes

    chayes New Member

    Feb 29, 2000
    Raleigh, NC
    Yeah, that Eddie Pope guy sucks... I can't understand why Arena kept playing him throughout the World Cup...

    Actually, Nelsen has been DC's most solid defender all year. He really stepped up his game when Pope was in Korea. And he was our leading scorer for most of the summer!
     
  4. Revs Fan Forever

    Revs Fan Forever New Member

    Aug 8, 2002
    somewhere in MA
    I understand that kante only played the last part of the season for threvs but if it wasn't for him we never would have made the playoffs in the first place.
     
  5. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you are looking for a candidate from Columbus, Dunseth is probably your guy, closely followed by Clark. Dunseth for his consistency, Clark for his ability to stop The Fish.

    Denton lost his spot for a chunk of the year. I don't think you can include him... this year.

    Of course, if you count goalkeepers as defenders, than the Crew's winner is Busch, hands-down.
     
  6. Rodan

    Rodan New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Providence
    My bad, don't know how I could have forgotten Eddie "The Chosen One" Pope. And Nelson too.

    Encouraged (though shocked!) to hear this - he being an ex-Rev and all...
     
  7. Playable Back

    Playable Back New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    Jaime Moreno
     
  8. PZ

    PZ Member

    Apr 11, 1999
    Michiana
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Big Red!! Yeah, the guy was in the broadcast booth and now in his second season back from retirement, but I doubt you'll find a G fan that won't say he's had an awsome season.
     
  9. Rodan

    Rodan New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Providence
    This was a bit cold.
    Jolley? Akwari didn't get nearly enough minutes (thanks OZ).
     
  10. Metros Striker10

    Metros Striker10 New Member

    Jul 7, 2001
    Planet Earth
    Tim Howard

    Tim Howard was the MetroStars best defender. Awkari could be it, but didn't play much since OZ is in charge and he thinks Chronopoulos is better.
     
  11. Gregor

    Gregor New Member

    Jun 23, 1999
    Boston, MA USA
    ,..,

    and as any Rev fan can tell you, Chronopoulos is a horrible left back
     
  12. Playable Back

    Playable Back New Member

    Apr 26, 2002
    could he be worse than McKinley?
     
  13. Jambon

    Jambon Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Definitely Reyes,

    If you were playing schoolground ball and had to pick by position, he would be the first guy I'd take at defender.
     
  14. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I only saw Reyes play twice, but he's pretty amazing.

    He would start for the USMNT, imho.
     
  15. Ronaldo13

    Ronaldo13 New Member

    Jun 18, 2002
    NY
    uhhhh.....Petke?
     
  16. art

    art Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    Portland OR
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure he won't get it, but my vote goes to Kante. IMO the single most important player for the Revs over the last 6 weeks of the season on the run to the Eastern Div title.
     
  17. galperin

    galperin Member

    Feb 1, 2001
    Maineville, OH
    LOL!
     
  18. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    Don't include Ezra if this discussion only relates to 2002. He's had an off year because teams game-planned his one-trick pony game right off the field. EZ's first otuch is horrific, but he's a slightly better man marker than given credit for.

    He just had a below-average season.

    Lalas on the other hand...
     
  19. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    To me, there are a few candidates, but not many.

    Dallas Burn: Morrow, Bonseu
    Chicago Fire: Bocanegra
    LA Galaxy: Lalas
    DC United: Reyes, Nelsen

    It's a tough call. No defender had a standout year. Despite the Dallas Burn allowing a fair number of goals, that should be tempered by their overaggressive wingbacks Broome and Suarez who often leave Morrow and Bonseu alone as a 2 man back line with only a single Dmid in front of them. Bonseu has done a great job of covering for those two and deserves mention. Morrow organized the back line well (considering Jefferies edict to have both wingbacks attack almost all of the time), and scored some crucial goals and dominated the air defensively.

    Bocanegra played centrally and on the left wing, but was the only real constant on D for the Fire. Chicago had a great defense despite losing Armas, Beasley and a host of other defenders.

    Lalas and califf in central defense ... that's a slow combo! With attacking Ezra Hendrickson on one side and Tyrone Marshall on the other, it's amazing that this was such a good defense! The real answer lies in having Vagenas/Ochoa and Elliott as twin Dmids, all doing a good job. But Lalas organized it very well, and he scored as well.

    Reyes was asked to attack too much this season, and he had a difficult time adjusting to the ticky-tack calls of MLS, so he gave up some very unwanted penalties, particularly early on. But, he was the best man marking defender in MLS this year, he played a great positional game, and attacked wonderfully when asked.

    Nelsen made some mistakes, didn't play early and was injured late, but when he did play with the full complement of starters (Pope, Reyes, Prideaux) he was fantastic. He had 4 goals on a horrendous offensive team. He organized our talented defense flawlessly. When he organized a 3 man back line of starters (Nelsen + any 2 of Reyes, Pope or Prideaux) and they were not asked to become target-forwards to compensate for the lack of any offense, DC United probably had the best defense in MLS this season.

    My vote goes to Lalas. Nelsen didn't play enough games, Reyes had too many penalties, Dallas allowed too many goals, and Bocanegra didn't have as good of a year as many of us expected. If I were building a team I wouldn't pick Lalas, but I do think he deserves it this season.

    -Tron
     
  20. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that it's difficult to identify the top defender this year. Of the top three defenses (LA, Quakes, and DC United), no one player stood out. However, since LA had the least amount of goals against this season, I would have to vote for Lalas.

    He seemed to make a difference to LA similar to Agoos did for the Quakes in 2001. Plus, he helped out on the offensive end. Could be Defender and Come Back Player of the Year?

    I agree with everyone who has said that Reyes should be in consideration. Although Wade Barret had a great year for a defense missing two key players (Agoos and Dayak) for most of the season, the poor form of the defense towards the end of the season (including him!) makes it diifficult to cast a vote for hiim...
     
  21. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    nobody shut down more scoring opportunities

    But soccer365 has a poll for the best defenders in MLS and the choices are...

    Lalas
    EZ
    Ramiro Corrales
    Jay Heaps

    are they serious? I want to know who's winning, but can't bring myself to vote for one of them to find out.
     
  22. Ringo

    Ringo Member

    Jun 10, 2002
    Rough and Ready
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    my thoughts exactly.


    my vote and it pains me to say this on several levels: Lalas
     
  23. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No kidding. Of those four, only Lalas should be seriously considered for DOTY. (And I never thought that I'd say that.)
     
  24. Short Corner

    Short Corner Member

    Jun 28, 2001
    past awards

    Another consideration for Lalas: the award is often given to the player who organizes the league's best defense (and contributes something to the offense), and not to the best manmarker/stopper. Agoos, Vermes, Kubik--Lalas is this year's most similar player, with Morrow second. Barrett, Boca and Reyes are different types of players. Though this may be the year an outside back has a shot.
     
  25. FootyMundo

    FootyMundo New Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Minneapolis
    I love Reyes from DC too. I also like Garcia from KC (reads the game well and he's a good athlete) and Bocanegra from Chi-town (another good, solid athlete who can mark folks out of a game).
     

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