MD2: Roma - Juventus (August 30th, 2015) [R]

Discussion in 'AS Roma' started by Andreas, Aug 23, 2015.

  1. whill4

    whill4 Moderator
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    AS Roma
    Sep 11, 2011
    Returning Video Tapes
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    Allegri is a cautious manager and I expect him to sit deep just like every other time we've faced Juve since hiring Garcia. They're well aware of how strong we are on the counter, and how poor we are when you just let us have the ball.

    But we matched them in intensity in both of the games last season, and we should be able to do it again.
     
  2. Wolfbeatseagle

    Wolfbeatseagle Member+

    May 7, 2007
    The Bermuda Tetrahedron
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    Supporters groups in Hungary have been protesting something along the lines of the invasive nature of the stadium checkpoints with biometric scanning.

    I recall the Ferencvaros ultras taking the protest to the point where they don't enter the stadium. Not sure it's worked in their favor, but there seems to be a prevailing opinion in Italy that the fans will get their way. My question would be, what if they don't get their way? They're willing to sacrifice the support of their team to make a point?
     
  3. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
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    Sometimes you have to make tough choices.
     
  4. GamE_Ove12

    GamE_Ove12 Member+

    Jul 7, 2013
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    ********ing idiots.
     
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  5. DDR

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    Jun 13, 2006
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    Easy to say when the things they protest have no bearing or affect on you.
     
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  6. iGiallorossi

    iGiallorossi Member+

    Oct 4, 2010
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    Shouldn't Roma come first?
     
  7. Roma_NY

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    Oct 19, 2009
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    Protest before and/or after the game. Protest at half time. When the team is on the pitch, don't protest.
     
  8. La Magica

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    Aug 1, 2011
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    If this is the only way they can get their voice heard. They should stand up for their rights as match going supporters who spend a lot money following the side.
     
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  9. Wolfbeatseagle

    Wolfbeatseagle Member+

    May 7, 2007
    The Bermuda Tetrahedron
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    United States
    It's cutting off your nose to spite your face though.
     
  10. muptonfish

    muptonfish Member

    Oct 10, 2013
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    AS Roma
    If you really want to protest, don't go to the game. The power will care about loss of revenue before loss of signs and singing
     
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  11. iGiallorossi

    iGiallorossi Member+

    Oct 4, 2010
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    But what does it achieve? They still purchase a ticket and then go into the stands, where they'll behave like the divide was installed for. It hurts the team only.
     
  12. DDR

    DDR Moderator
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    Jun 13, 2006
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    That would work except most are season ticket holders. The season tickets were sold before the barrier went up without notification to the people purchasing season tickets. This even though the decision to put up a barrier was taken sometime in February. So they already got the money.
     
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  13. meazza

    meazza Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    If Roma is leading I doubt they will stay silent.
     
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  14. Matrim

    Matrim Member+

    Feb 10, 2014
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    You are right, what I was thinking!?

    Having a wall in the middle of the Curva? I bet that's inconvenient to sit to. Oh, wait, there are seats on the stadium in both of the directions of the wall.

    And they search you for forbidden items? How dare they. After all - Roma ultrases have ever been so polite, and sweat, with their sweat banners and their sweat stabs in the ass. And their sweet behavior that gets the stadium closed now and again, and then once again.

    And ******** the police, right? They want to make sure no one is having a sword fight on the stands, or a fight for that matter. But what do they know. You don't go to the stadium if there isn't a chance for a melee. Normal people brace yourself, the psychopaths are feeling insulted for not being given the freedom to behave like animals.

    I mean... where does Pallotta and the italian goverment get their ideas of safe environment and such? After all - you said it yourself - 7 year old kids are getting searched too. And old men! And guess why? Because if the pop of this 7 years old kids hides a weapon in this innocent kid clothes - it's the kid that may get hurt for the actions of the people who should know better.

    So yeah, over-react as much as you want. The stadium is a public building where normal people with kids go to have fun, not to become victims of the feral needs of regenerates and phychopaths who are taking advantage of the crowd to behave like idiots, animals, etc.

     
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  15. GamE_Ove12

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    Jul 7, 2013
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    Reportedly there were about 60k tickets sold. The Curva is only 18k. I am sure the rest 40k Roma fans will support their team.
     
  16. Vulpinous

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    Mar 15, 2007
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    I'm with @DDR here. I don't go against the code. @Matrim you are convicting a very small percentage of patrons as being "psychopaths."
     
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  17. muptonfish

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    Oct 10, 2013
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    Ahh I didn't consider that, would there be any loss of match day revenues like here in the US, where your ticket is really only 1/2 the cost of attending after you add in concessions, merchandise, and parking.
     
  18. GamE_Ove12

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    Jul 7, 2013
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    But that's what everyone has been saying: small percentage of "idiots" are ruining it for everyone. That has always been the case. You don't go around protesting security in airports because it is only "small percentage of people are terrorists".
     
  19. Vulpinous

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    Mar 15, 2007
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    I don't think it's fair to make a metaphor of terrorists to ultras.
     
  20. DDR

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    Jun 13, 2006
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    Not to mention a lot of people think airport security is a bunch of exagerrated nonsense used to keep people scared. You get on trains every day without having to take your shoes of or go through invasive screenings.
     
  21. Vulpinous

    Vulpinous Moderator
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    Mar 15, 2007
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    Mmmmm, not when you live in New York.
     
  22. bigtimebuck4

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    Oct 10, 2004
    They will never stop protesting this unless management gives in, just like the new logo. Oh wait.... lol
     
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  23. romanista8910

    romanista8910 Member+

    May 7, 2010
    Roma
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    AS Roma
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    I don't blame them at all for protesting. It's just a tough situation because how much will it really achieve considering like DDR said they are mainly season ticket holders who have already paid for their seats? It sucks that this has to be against Juve but what can they really do, they need to try and get their point across and they already own the tickets. Pallotta doesn't give a crap about if the fans don't show passion, he cares about those seats being sold and that's it. Hopefully they're smart enough next season to boycott. It's unfortunate but that's what I'd do.
     
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  24. GamE_Ove12

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    Jul 7, 2013
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    It is an analogy not a metaphor. The concept is the same. Public safety is above anything. If few idiots want to continue to live in the retarded days of calcio where they can shoot people and stab them in the ass, cause trouble and fight- or even put inflammatory banners that lead to such violence - every measure should be taken to stop them.
     
  25. GamE_Ove12

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    Jul 7, 2013
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    #50 GamE_Ove12, Aug 24, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2015

    I really hope so. Just be civilized and stop creating negative atmosphere. You don't like the new Roma, boycott it. There is a natural selection process in that decision. I am confident more people will come to games and less trouble for the team once the idiots are gone. The passion will never go, but the troubles hopefully will.

    People in England were saying the same after the anti hooligan laws, that it is strict and overkill. Well.. Which is the best league in the world now with the highest attendance and largest followers base all over the world?
     

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