Jozy getting replaced?

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Datderfranny, Jul 14, 2015.

  1. Bigrose30

    Bigrose30 Member+

    Sep 11, 2004
    Jersey City, NJ
    If Jozy is going to regain form it's certainly not going to be with that Toronto squad. I watched them for 90 minutes last night and couldn't even start to tell you what their gameplan is, other than chuck it to Gianvinco.

    Now Herc on the other hand, will figure out a way to get goals on that team.
     
  2. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    If Jackson is the solution, the problems are too big too fix.
     
  3. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Jozy's in a slump, this much is clear. It's not the first time for him, he's always been a player that's either riding his confidence or he's not. Herc Gomez was definitely more dangerous when he subbed on yesterday.
     
  4. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree. Don't think it was a good move for either of them. Not at all.

    And I'm not interested in making this a MLS v Europe debate. It ain't about that. As I said at the time when both moved to TFC, there were far better fits for both in MLS. But the move to TFC for Jozy was as bad as the move to Sunderland for him. I personally think he should have moved back to Holland or gone to Germany from Sunderland.

    And frankly, if I'm TFC I'm trying to move both to any club who'll take them, whether that's in MLS or overseas. They are a waste of money for TFC. They could do a fair amount better with two available DP slots. Their own fans don't like them and consider them a waste of money and for the most part in reading the popular TFC fan forum, most don't care they're USNTers as they're Canadians. They don't care about the NT marketing aspect.

    The worst part in general are both should be entering their primes and playing the best football of their careers and neither are close to that, nor have they been for roughly 18 months. Mike is still a pro going about his business though, Jozy seems to have lost it mentally. He doesn't look happy in Tor, doesn't look motivated either. Frankly, with the soft media and inability with the salary structure to force Jozy to compete day in, day out for his spot, I worry about him sinking into a depressive comfort zone. TFC ain't benching him.
     
  5. Pass-n-Go

    Pass-n-Go Member+

    Jul 5, 2008
    I agree with you about Jozy.
     
  6. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would have liked to see Jozy try one of the Europa League level French sides like Marseille or Bordeaux. If they wouldn't have had him, more mid table like Lille or Nantes w/ his natty team buddy. Those would be step downs from the Premier League, but a step up from the Eredivisie which he already conquered. That might have given him cause to be confident again, while still being engaged. With Toronto, he's not very engaged to begin with dropping down from the Premier League at 24-25, to a level below Holland. While he could also lose more confidence from questionable service. Then he gets even less engaged because I think his attitude when things aren't working well is to not try so in the back of his mind he can have an excuse. Run away from goal scoring chances, walk around, and flippantly get cards to be taken off the field.

    Jozy and his agent's management of his career has been very short-sighted. With good management and him not being such a head case, I think he might well be viewed as a world class player right now, instead of floppy. He's got the talent. It's not that dissimilar of a situation to Balotelli's.
     
  7. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Agreed. For as bad as Jozy's attitude problems might be right now he's still nowhere close to Balotelli territory.
     
  8. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How did Josmer look against RBNY?
     
  9. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Completely agree....

    I hope Jozy goes...but I think with the amount of change it took to get Bradley here, I think they hold on to him. He's still a great player...but I do think his time away from the high level of euro footie has hurt the 'little' things that really show when at the highest level of competition.

    It's one thing to do what he did in those friendlies, another with his inability to translate it to the NT stage like he used to....
     
  10. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
     
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  11. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    True. But you never know til you try.
     
  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    So... are we ready for the Bobby Wood era?
     
  13. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    Some bad, some good. He was beating 1-2 people in the air all game long but RBNY were very effective in stifling any of sort of offense that TFC attempted. The truth is, everyone stunk up the field for TFC, including Michael Bradley who may have been just as bad as the CB's (the worst of the lot).

    Maybe play Herc Gomez for awhile and sub in Jozy until he gets his form back.

    For everyone jumping all over him, just have a look at the scoring charts for the season and you'll see there aren't many Americans doing much better.
     
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  14. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was born ready.
     
  15. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Wooten called in for September friendlies.
     
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  16. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I'm ready for the wood/morris tandem--yes
     
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  17. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Smell my finger. New pu$$y. God he loves young strikers.
     
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  18. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Well, it is all about scoring from that position
     
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  19. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Oh I get it. Everything is going in at the moment.
    [​IMG]
    And you never walk away from a table when you're on a heater.
     
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  20. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This seems to happen every time someone is put on the alert list. Someone from their club leaks that they have been called in.
     
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  21. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    The best example of this was 2 seasons ago. Bolton announced that Ream was called in and he then went out and played probably the worst 1 or 2 games of his career. Invitation withdrawn.
     
  22. Rainer24

    Rainer24 Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why is everybody on Bobby Wood's D so hard? He scored in two games. That's it. He has never even been an above average player in the 2. Bundesliga.


    Altidore is just in another longterm slump. He has had a few of them now. When he is not in a slump, he craps all over every other true striker in our pool.
     
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  23. manfromgallifrey91

    Swansea City
    United States
    Jul 24, 2015
    Wyoming, USA
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats the exact readon you hear people looking for other options. Multiple longterm slumps, questionable work ethic unless he is catered to, injury prone, its ojay for Jozu to sit until he gets sorted. If we play Wood, Morris, or anyone it doesnt matter, try them out and see if it works. If not once Jozy gets lined out he goes back in, if they do catch on, he has to work to get his job back and thats okay too.
     
  24. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think he's in a slump. I think he has had a few good periods followed by resumption of his normal ability. His touch is not great. He is not terribly fast or quick. Form is temporary, class is permanent. Very apropos for Jozy.
     
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  25. Bookmesir

    Bookmesir Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    Club:
    FC Aarau
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, cleansheetsbsc, I have to say, that with Teddy R. staring out as your avatar, I have an immediate visceral image of the Panama Canal, Sagamore Hill, the Roughriders and big game trophy taxidermy, but, new pu$$y?:confused:
    dude, I will never see Teddy in the same light again.o_O
     

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