Good lord, Gyau, and Renken, both waylaid by knee injuries, Six years ago they were the next generation of potential Adu's made good, now both lost before their careers even started [good to hear later in the thread it may not be that bad for Gyau..].Horrific. Poor guys. It's like Tommy John injuries, what the heck is happening? Crazy to think those guys, Holden and Davies all wrecked in the past five years. Before them we lost Wolff, O'Brien and Mathis and many others going all the way back to Snow in '92. Just crazy and it seems to be getting worse, not better, like Tommy John injuries in baseball. Is it working out that's causing this?
I'm with you on this issue, and it applies even in the states as well, RGIII's injury with the Redskins was a criminal instance of negligence and it happened WITH Dr. James Andrews on the sidelines, checking him out (either to CYA, or perhaps it was true, Andrews said post injury that he didn't okay RGIII going back in, but he also didn't say "he's out" either). I spent that whole game screaming obscenities at Shanny for being such a colossal scumbag, and instead of being the bigger man, the coach, and showing a sense of responsibility and accountability by taking him off the field regardless of RGIII's pleas to stay back in, and then later, pawning off the blame on the player, who already "had" to follow through on the athletes credo of playing through pain. It was blatantly obvious RGIII couldn't step into his throws, or place enough weight on his knee to execute the play book effectively and was hurting both the team, and himself by staying on the field and running a serious risk of having a catastrophic injury if he kept playing, but the team and coach allowed him to play out there for another 2 and a half quarters until his knee exploded. It was criminal neglect. There are also lawsuits pending in a variety of sports by players who believe their teams doctors destroyed their careers, their body, etc. And that's here where we're usually on the vanguard/cutting edge of modern sporting approaches. I don't trust teams to put player health ahead of organizational interests EVER if it has to do with the senior side. If the two fit, they fit, if they don't, and a team can look away and cross it's metaphorical fingers, they will. I know I sound like a fanatic, and I'm not. I honestly do think most teams in a general sense, especially in things like baseball, and soccer where development of players occurs over a much, much longer time horizon than with football (remember Jack Youngblood, playing the 1979 NFC Title game, and Super Bowl with a broken leg), and basketball, will put the players health first, but later on, when they're pro's? This concern lessens, especially if the player is on a last year of his contract, promotion/relegation is in play, philosophy about injury issues comes into play etc. Hockey has a similar problem, but only at the pro level, as in hockey your expected to play through any and all pain, save for foot related injuries which impact skating. I think all sports could do a much, much better job of managing the health of these players, and I think generally speaking they do do a good job with youngsters in soccer, but professionals on a senior side? Not at all sold. I've seen far far far too many examples of players in all sports being ruined by their team's management of their injury issues and it's imperative that players seek advice for medical concerns via outside sources, and not simply rely on team doctors. Team doctors are always compromised, period, and can't be trusted to consistently put forth a treatment/surgical schedule in the best interests of the player, rather than the team.
^^Reminds me of Sampaoli and his cowardly way of letting Vidal back on the team, no suspension to WIN the copa america since it's in Chile. The guy got a DUI, crashed his ultra expensive ferrari and all he needed to do was cry at a news conference (like he did in 2011 in a similar circumstance). Coaches will do anything to win, and will compromise wherever as long as that makes the path to victory closer. Yuck
Hi Everyone, I manage a small site called DMV Soccer which covers teams and players from the DC/MD/VA area. Joe Gyau recently allowed me to interview him, where he opens up about his rehab process, plans to play for Dortmund this season, etc. Check out the link below and if anyone has any thoughts or questions, fire away DMV's Finest - Joe Gyau - Not Your Average Joe
I'm moving this over to the Gyau thread I hope I am wrong, but I don't get this sense. Gyau wasn't really a major part of their first team to begin with. If I am remembering correctly, he was a second team player who played well for the second team and got a one game promotion to the first team where he played one game. He's now almost 23 and coming off a major injury, while he's yet to show he definitely has what it takes to play a regular role for their first team. Top teams in Europe usually don't take on projects like this. Usually its players they know are good enough for their first team or kids who have a lot of potential. Are we sure they aren't just going to let him come back from injury and then let him go once his contract is over instead of getting rid of a guy mid-injury and looking very bad from a PR standpoint?
Henceforth, wait and see. The reason he only played one game is because, well, he got hurt. And that's where the situation stands now.
His contract runs until June 2017, so if he comes back at all it'll likely be before then. Gyau needs to continue his rehab with the club, and for that to happen BVB presumably has to have him under contract. Hopefully he's back by next season and gets reps with the 2nd team or on loan somewhere.
I think nearly everything has to go right for a player to make it as a young kid at a big club progressing through the academy. Pelosi had the broken leg, and then he was done. Green had that one bad loan, and most think he's done at Bayern. Flores had a bad first half of the 2014-15 season, and most think he's done at Dortmund. Zelalem didn't show improvements during the 2014-15 season at Arsenal, and a lot of Arsenal fans think he's done at Arsenal. All of this is magnified for Gyau considering he wasn't really that highly regarded at Dortmund at any point unlike the others, just a guy brought in to help out the second team get decent results and he really surprised everyone. Also, he's not yet back from a major injury and he's significantly older than these other prospects.
These thoughts go through my head every time I leave the office 15mins early to get my son to training on time. We could likely both be using our time more wisely, although his 1.5hr training is a good excuse for me to get a good cycle in.
Wagner & Huddersfield have made a bid to sign BVB winger Joe Gyau on loan. Dortmund want Gyau to prove his fitness #htafc #terriers— ITK Yorkie (@JD_agent) January 4, 2016
Fantastic news! Wagner doing Gyau and BVB a solid. Now, if BVB management wants him to "prove his fitness" in the Championship, it seems to suggest that they believe he has a future in the Buli... *hopeful* btw Well done @MixDiskerud ... Well done 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾— Joe Gyau (@36finest) December 18, 2015 A lot of people don't know how much coach Klinsmann helps the players behind closed doors.. There's a lot you don't see...— Joe Gyau (@36finest) December 18, 2015
This is reaching a bit but could he be eligible for EC permanent residence based on continuous residence in Germany?
Really hoping Wagner can make Huddersfield a comfortable spot for Nats in the Championship. Really hope Gyau gets healthy and gets the opportunity. Hope Terrance Boyd does the same.
Anyone know how long Joe's been in Germany? Could it be posible he would be eligible for citizenship? He's been there since he was a teen, right?
Not for the UK (usually). It does with some other countries, but the UK isn't participating in that program.