News: Rummaging Through The Scraps - The Summer Transfer Thread 2

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  1. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    That was on Fergie tbh.

    What Woody needs to do is to get fully onboard on implementing the Bayern model as was the plan initially.
     
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  2. nimma

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    Jun 5, 2006
    India
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    Word
     
  3. Only_ONE_United

    Nov 30, 2008
    Vancouver/Hong Kong
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    I wouldn't give RM their time of day. If Ramos isn't heading our way (wasn't fully keen on him anyway), then I still say we demand Varane; young CB ready to move up for a WC GK is fair.
    Unless it is a ridiculous RM impulse cash offer of (Bale-esque or GK-equal proportion), then no thanks. We aren't Spurs. RM need their marquee signing much more than we need to sell.

    If De Gea wants to pull some sulking or Di Maria BS should no deal go through, then he can enjoy the bench and wait till next summer. With FSW in charge I'm fairly certain RM won't be able to wait till next summer, so we should stand firm.
     
  4. Teso Dos Bichos

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    Sep 2, 2004
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    Another day of disappointment.
     
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  5. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
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    Competing for and winning are not the same.
     
  6. cr7torossi

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    May 10, 2007
    Did Liverpool compete for the league in 2013-14 or not?
     
  7. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
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    Yes.

    Have we crossed wires?

    My initial point was harkening back to reasonable expectations for a 2nd season United manager. My personal expectations for season two would not be winning the league. The third season is where I would expect us to win, or said manager would likely need to move on.
     
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  8. cr7torossi

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    May 10, 2007
    Did Chelsea compete for the league in 2013-14?
     
  9. Gnome

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    Nov 5, 2013
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    FC Sankt Pauli
     
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  10. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
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    I thought so. Not following though??
     
  11. cr7torossi

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    May 10, 2007
    Just trying to get a reference on what competing for the league is in your book. I think 80 points is a reasonable expectation for the coming season which would have meant competing in 2013-14.
     
  12. Gnome

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    Nov 5, 2013
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  13. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
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    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    #3213 Ashur, Aug 1, 2015
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  14. cr7torossi

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  15. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
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    Real Madrid
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    Palestine
    :( I thought you were talking about our Rafa for a second there, lol.
     
  16. Gnome

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    Nov 5, 2013
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    This is your punishment for taking De Gea. You must suffer a year with Rafa Benitez
     
  17. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
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    Bale, Benz, Varane, or Ramos. If none are coming our way, then Madrid can suck a bag of dicks. Another year with DDG gives him time to think about signing a new contract. Who knows, if we're doing well domestically and in Europe than he might sign a new contract. If not, then we have plenty of time to line up Leno, Oblak, and Lloris for the start of preseason next summer.
     
  18. Gnome

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    Nov 5, 2013
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    We should have signed Leno instead of Romero right now. His release clause is 13m pounds. =/
     
  19. Karloski

    Karloski Member+

    Oct 26, 2006
    England
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    Manchester United FC
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    England
    With the time he has had, and the money made available (in 3 transfer windows)...he should be challenging for the title. There is a difference between finishing 3rd...4 points off the winners come the end of the season...and finishing 3rd\4th 20 points adrift. We were ********ing lucky last season with the collapse of spurs and pool....last years points tally and performances are unacceptable this season..there has been time and money to sort stuff out.

    At the moment, most united fans are too accepting of some rebuilding project that they think will take 6-7 years....maybe to get back to where we were, sure...but non of us should be accepting the shit we have had for the last 2 years...we've spent enough to challenge in this league at the VERY least. Any manager who continues to fight it out for 3rd and 4th while being 10-20 points adrift from the top is a massive failure...especially considering the PL has actually become weaker over the last 3 years.
     
  20. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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    #3220 Ashur, Aug 1, 2015
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    We've got to ask ourselves if he would have Leverkusen to be DDG's backup. My guess is that he probably wouldn't have. Romero is a good signing for us as long as he's the #2.
    If DDG happens to leave this summer, then United should immediately look to either him or maybe even Oblak. Leno's ridiculously low release clause, especially compared to Oblak's would make him probably the easiest target.
    The bottom line is that United need to figure this thing out with DDG presto. There is a very slight chance that by keeping him, that he will resign with United, but he just wants to go back home so smart money says that we're just delaying the inevitable. And with that, can he counted to remain a total pro and be the same player he was last season when his heart and his head are obviously in Spain? That is what United needs to gauge and act upon accordingly once they figure it out.
     
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  21. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    Haha give it up, any of our players you are linked with are just using you to get a new deal. No one in their right minds would leave our squad for yours right now.

    de Gea isn't signing a new contract, if he was he would have signed by now already. You have offered him a very generous new deal already but for personal and family reasons he wants to move back home. This is what happens when you sign Iberian players.

    Most Madrid fans would rather wait til January and get him on a free, we already have two competent keepers and your keeper wants to join us so there is zero leverage you have in the situation. Just pray that Flo is generous this summer and that you get a decent fee for him, otherwise he walks for nothing next summer.

    You can afford to wait, he is a professional with a good attitude so he won't complain or force a move and we're in no rush either but consider whether he will throw himself into the path of a strikers cleats this season if he knows that he could get injured and jeopardise his dream move. The top four clubs will be tight and if he is scared of injuring himself I don't think he'll be at a level to win you games like he did in many matches last year.
     
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  22. Teso Dos Bichos

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    Making you pay out on outlandish contract renewals is still a win in my book. As for DDG unless you pay us a fee that reflects his standing and value instead of effectively what we paid for him then I'm more than happy to let him run his contract down. A season of DDG to secure CL qualification is better than getting a pittance and an inferior replacement. If he wants to act unprofessionally and compromise his Euro place or end up riding the pine and moving to Madrid with little game time under his belt then that is his choice. That's why we have the security of Romero.
     
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  23. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
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    Palestine
    That's cool, but we pay less than you offer and they stay with us. You were allegedly offering Ramos 12 and he will likely re-up at 9.

    Offering these sorts of numbers to external players means that your own renewals become more complicated down the line.

    I would love to be a fly on the wall when Jones goes in for contract renewal talks. "Five million? But you offered Ramos 12!"
     
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  24. Teso Dos Bichos

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    It's well within our margins and will cause you far more difficulty once Pepe and Varane et al want parity. You have also just secured another old player on high wages on a long contract. Cue more Casillas pay-offs when you attempt to replace them early.
     
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  25. Gnome

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