News: Montreal acquire Didier Drogba's MLS rights from Chicago

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Fiosfan, Jul 26, 2015.

  1. holiday

    holiday Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    i didn't say anything about number of appearances.
    let's also keep in mind that guys like lampard, gerrard, di natale or toni were playing in leagues they knew like the palm of their hand. now we're talking about players at an advanced age changing league and country (continent, actually). can we at least admit these guys are old?
    i guess you expect a standing ovation.
     
  2. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
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    Toronto FC
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    Dunno about that. Not enough depth imo
     
  3. KennyWoo

    KennyWoo Member

    May 21, 2007
    Pasadena, California
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Is his famous cousin, Ali Dia, too old?
     
  4. holiday

    holiday Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    well, ciman and piatti are good, which means a defender and a playmaker. donadel isn't bad. oyongo is useful. romero is ok. but i wouldn't give you anything for toia or mallace or duka or oduro or mc inerney. and the key thing to me is that drogba wouldn't come in like at chelsea to be an extra guy on offense. you'd be asking him to win you a lot of games. color me skeptical, but we'll see.
     
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  5. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    Here is what you said:

    So, you were talking about appearances. I was pointing out that they were integral members of their teams.
    Gerrard rarely came off of the bench.
    Lampard started more games than not.
    Pirlo started most games.

    Yes, they are old, but it really should not matter much.

    That's the end of this part of the discussion.
    We see things differently; that is the beauty of a discussion.

    Have a nice afternoon.
     
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  6. holiday

    holiday Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    i said they came off the bench, not that they never played. i don't see what's so hard to get...
    lampard played 32 epl games. he started 10, was subbed in 22 times, by the way.
    gerrard was an icon at liverpool. but they had a poor season and he didn't shine either. 9 epl goals, 1 assist in 29 appearances, and i don't know how many of those goals were pk's.
    pirlo might be your best example, if only because his team won. but even he didn't have a big year. played in just 20 league games (one more than half), scored a goal every 401 minutes and, stranger yet, only got 5 assists, one every four appearances. he missed 11 games to injury. (three years ago, for example, he assisted every 2.6 appearances).
    these are fine names to put on the marquee, not players who can be expected to perform anywhere near their best levels.
    but like i said earlier, if the alternative is to watch the mls rank and file who seem puzzled about executing a throw-in, i guess there's room.
     
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  7. Papillon Soo Soo

    Jan 17, 2012
    People are forgetting Marco DiVaio bagged 20 goals as a 36-37 year old for MTL in 2013. A competitive old player, even at the striker position, can have have plenty of success if the team is the right fit. A year later, his final year, he had 9 - which is not horrible. Drogba is a better player than DiVaio, isn't he?
     
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  8. PattysCow

    PattysCow Member+

    Apr 4, 2010
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    Real Salt Lake
    I can't seem to figure out the problem. He will either perform well and raise the overall level of the league, or he will perform poorly, not play, and the overall level of the league will remain the exact same. Who gives a shit if some kid in England is laughing hysterically between bites of hot pocket, as he mocks "the mls" in the comment section of yet another article disparaging the "retirement league." The long term quality of the league is going to be entirely dependent on the development of our academies, and not aging European stars anyway. They're nice to have, and certainly welcome if they are going to mentor the young and put bottoms in seats.
     
  9. holiday

    holiday Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    or he'll be the shell of what he used to be but he'll play anyway and the hype machine will keep on spinning. and although i couldn't care less what some fat kid in england thinks, i'll just say for myself that these signings feel like mls is popping pills.
    i don't think this is right. you have to bring in outside players. i mean, i'm taking your 'entirely dependent' literally...
     
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  10. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    #85 tab5g, Jul 29, 2015
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    Hard to know who is the better player.

    They are different players. Certainly will be a challenge for Drogba, imo, to match the kind of numbers at MTL that DiVaio was able to put up while there.

    Not that it matters necessarily, but DiVaio had the (slight) advantage of coming to MLS at age 36, while Drogba is arriving in the league at age 37. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

    I certainly think Gilberto in Chicago could/will "out-produce" Drogba in MTL across the next 5-18 months. (But Drogba will certainly help sell more tickets and draw more attention, relative to Chicago's most recent DP signing.)
     
  11. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    Not sure how this enters into it, but it should probably be noted that Drogba was a late-developing player. He didn't really have a full season of top flight play until he was 24 and didn't really blow up as a superstar until he was 26. He hasn't been around for as long as his age indicates. Again, not sure if that's good or bad.
     
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  12. SoCalYid

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    BigSoccer :)
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    626501931729420288 is not a valid tweet id
     
  13. SoCalYid

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    BigSoccer :)
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  14. chad

    chad Member+

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  15. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Hauptman is a farce.
     
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  16. chad

    chad Member+

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    Bridgeview is a farce, and you're just an enabler.
     
  17. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Oh noes! An ad hominem attack!

    :rolleyes:
     
  18. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
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    Hauptman said it through Yallop..

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  19. chad

    chad Member+

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    Manhattan Beach
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    Oh noes, indeed.
     
  20. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    We gots a tough guy on the internets!
     
  21. Matt Hall

    Matt Hall Member+

    Sep 26, 2012
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    I read him as sarcastic, but anyway: you are posting with a fake name and an avatar with a gun, so ...
     
  22. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
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    Nov 13, 2000
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    How did I know that as soon as I saw your name this broken record wouldn't be far behind? I'm old enough to remember when you used to post about more than one thing regarding the Fire.

    Regardless, the Fire as currently constructed would be a farce even if they had a stadium at State and Madison.
     
  23. Fiosfan

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    Mar 21, 2010
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    Saw this on FB and thought it's pretty funny.
     
  24. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
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    Cool. Then you're old enough to remember when the Chicago Fire were a soccer team.
     
  25. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The only terrible part of the remaining MLS season is that the Fire and Impact play twice in Montreal. Our owner will definitely not see Drogba in person.
     

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