Wouldn't the wrong be Trying play his suspension out in a meaningless tournament, to be available for the real deal? Uruguay should push for it as well so Suarez maybe start the qualifiers
Exactly what I said. The point is they want his suspension to occur only in the Copa Centenario and not in the Qualifiers this October.
There may be more than just prize money and bragging rights. They may be a lot of FIFA ranking points up for grab, which could help a couple teams when the seeding is done for the next WC. Currently, points earned in Copa America will be worth less than points earned in the Euro Cup because Copa will be a year older at seeding time. This tournament could help make up for that and the fact that the Euros get to earn points in 2 qualifying campaigns, while Conmebol only has one. Could make the difference for a Chile or Colombia being seeded or not in Russia.
Does anybody know if this tournament is official? I mean does this count towards a Copa America championship? Or will there be a little asterisk next to the winner?
FIFA included it in the calendar but it does not count towards the Confederations Cup, for Concacaf and Conmebol.
Not necessarily the same thing. By being an official tournament sanctioned by FIFA, it allows the teams to call whichever player they want, and clubs will be forced to let them go. But the tournament can still get to not be considered a Continental tournament, so it will be a simple friendly type of tournament, where each match is treated as if they were friendly matches, which would mean for those teams participating in it (specially for those, currently high ranked teams), to lose points for their FIFA ranking and also decrease their chances to get to be seeded for the draw of the next WC.
I see, thanks for the explanation. I hope its not official, I'd hate to see USA or Mex win this tournament on American soil. I know there are some rumors that Peru is sending there sub23 so I have to guess it's not going to be taken too seriously by the other national teams either.
By including it on the calendar, it means that the European clubs will have to give their players, if they are called up.
No the reason this tournament was created was primarily money, not corruption itself. Now corrupt people may have been running it and hoping to benefit from it, but absent corruption it will still make a ton of money for the promoter and both confederations. Which is why it will go forward.
Esto es muy especulativo amigo... No sabemos si terminará por ser como el Campeonato Africano de Naciones... Comentabas en otro post que la FIFA considera los juegos en el campeonato africano de naciones como juegos amistosos para el ranking, y si, la razón es simple, aunque se juegue en fechas FIFA, no es un torneo continental avalado, pues el avalado por FIFA es la Copa Africana de Naciones, y ese si es considerado continental... El simple hecho de que este torneo haya entrado en calendario FIFA indica que el torneo será catalogado como un torneo continental, pero eso es algo que un no podremos saber, por lo que también es especulativo...
LOL That's pretty cynical. I don't see that argument succeeding. It would set a dangerous precedent too. Imagine if a young player picks up a red card in his team’s last match of the 2016 Copa and it results in a 3 match ban. Then his Copa America career would essentially be over. (He won’t get called-up in 2019, so next chance would be 7 years later in 2023). In related news, I hope Brasil doesn't draw Colombia in the first 2 games of the WC qualifiers.
To me, this Copa Centenario is a bit like Mundialito 1980 , which celebrated the 50th anniversary of the World Cup. Held in Uruguay, the six countries that had won the World Cup were invited to compete. The South Americans appeared to take the tournament quite seriously. The Europeans less so to the extent that England declined to participate so as not to disturb their domestic program which, as has been custom, did not observe a winter break. Both the Bundesliga and Serie A were on winter breaks during the tournament (January 1981) which allowed West Germany and Italy to send fairly strong sides (Zoff and Bettega were key omissions from Italy while Stielike and Schuster were not released for West Germany by their Spanish clubs). England's spot was taken by Holland (runners-up in the last two World Cups of '74 and '78) and they sent a fairly decent side (Haan, Rep and Krol were playing abroad and so may not have been released by their clubs?). Today the tournament is probably only remembered by Uruguayans, who won the tournament after laying dormant the past decade. The Mundialito team included a number of players that would go on to achieve Copa America glory in 1983 and 1987. Similarly, I think this Copa America Centenario will be taken seriously by the CONCACAF nations but not so much by the CONMEBOL teams. I'm talking in terms of squad selection. And in the end it will probably only be remembered by the country that ends up winning it (along with the host country's fans who attend the matches). Strictly my opinion.
@unclesox la cuestión es que ahora los clubes están obligados a dejar ir a sus jugadores, y adicionalmente el ganador de ese torneo será acreedor de una Copa América... Así pues, si la gana Uruguay tendrá 16, si la gana Argentina tendrá 15, si la gana Colombia tendrá 2, si la gana Chile tendrá 2!
It's possible that clubs had to release players for Mundialito '80 as well. Argentina's squad included Bertoni (Fiorentina), Ardiles (Tottenham) and Kempes (Valencia). West Germany also had a Valencia player (Bonhof) so maybe Valencia were willing while Real Madrid (Stielike) and Barcelona (Schuster) were not (?) Or maybe an agreement was made that West Germany would not call up those players, or FRG didn't take the tournament seriously enough to bother fighting for their availability. Likewise with English clubs: Spurs allowed Ardiles to go but Thijsen (Ipswich) remained with his club. Then again, Holland's squad included all-domestic players so maybe Thijsen wasn't called up (?) Research would have to be done to find out whether clubs were required to let players go to Uruguay if they were selected. As for the Centenario winner receiving equal status with past champions, if the actual trophy that Chile just won is on offer then perhaps I can understand. But this would be grossly unfair to Chile who would only get to hold on to the trophy for one year (assuming they don't win USA 2016).
Unfortunately, Honduras will not be joining us for this tournament...because Haiti sent them packing from the Gold Cup.
You know the organizers are a bit ticked off by that. Honduras would have added to the attendance figures. I guess they will be rooting for El Salvador and/ or Guatamala to sneak in somehow.
CONMEBOL is not giving the original trophy anymore... The keeper of that trophy is the team with the more tittles, in this case Uruguay... The trophy that was given to Chile is a replica, as the one that will be given in 2016...
You must be really proud right now. We'll most likely see each other again in The Hex, if Placide doesn't play with butter again
not been keeping up to date on CA2016 i should but just have had to much going on what going on with this is it going to happen i read it might not thanks to the FIFA crap?