NASL Expansion News, Rumors and Wishful Thinking Thread

Discussion in 'NASL Expansion' started by oneeyedfool, Mar 14, 2015.

  1. thesockerguy

    thesockerguy Guest

    In 1997, then mayor Willie Brown tried to convince the then Clash to relocate to a new Niners stadium in the city to ease financial costs.
     
  2. Sporting Real

    Sporting Real Member+

    Jun 29, 2011
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of the great What If's
     
  3. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    There was a big story breaking out around 1996 that San Jose Earthqaukes GM Peter Bridgwater picked up the lunch tab while talking to Willie Brown. Then it fell through and the Quakes along with SJSU decided to make Spartan Stadium wider in time 1998 season. and that is what happened.
     
  4. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If Milan Mandaric listened to the Old NASL's heads in 1973 and decided to put his team in SF as opposed to San Jose, things may have gone differently. Its been 40 years and since then however and we've seen the coming and going of the NASL, MISL WSA/APSL and the reincarnation of MLS Clash/Quakes from 1996-2005 and again from 2008 onward. In each case, its always been about the South Bay and San Jose area. The only teams to have started a team outside of San Jose were Mandaric's Oakland Stompers (1978) , the indoor San Francisco Fog (80-81) and the California Victory (2007). No other interested party has ever lasted more than one season and no one has ever come forth with a bid or interest in placing a team in the city. As it is SF has been the home to many top amateur teams for decades. You had Lothar Osiander's Greek Americans, El Farolito/CD Mexico , SF Glens, SF Scots and Concordia but still no professional team. I welcome a team in the city but I really wonder when it will ever happen.
     
  5. irish56

    irish56 Member+

    Oct 30, 2006
    indy
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After drawing 45k for a USMNT friendly vs. Guatemala and good turn out every trip there, when is there going to be a push for Nashville. Hopefully an owner steps forward and joins the NASL ranks. USL-Pro will come calling soon.
     
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  6. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The owner of the Harrisburg City Islanders has allegedly been looking at relocating the team to Nashville.
     
  7. irish56

    irish56 Member+

    Oct 30, 2006
    indy
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For NASL sake I hope not. If NASL keep losing markets like Nashville, St Louis, OKC to USL...be prepared to be division 3 soon.
     
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  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Unless the two leagues merge eventually. I can see that happening. Maybe not now but in 3-5 years time.
     
  9. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are plenty of available markets similar in quality to Nashville, I wouldn't sweat it. It would be a good get but so would Baltimore, San Francisco, San Diego, Northside Chicago, Milwaukee, Cleveland, etc, or if you want to stay within Tennessee, you could say bring back the Memphis Rogues.
     
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  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Remembering the Rogues - Memphis Flyer


    NASL Memphis Rogues Rosters
     
  11. RutgerATL

    RutgerATL Member

    Nov 10, 2009
    Decatur, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are no deals on the books. All player contracts are one year deals. All advertising is local, so that goes away. Virtually none of the front office would relocate. The team name means nothing in another city. Relocation is not going to happen, they will just fold if a local buyer is not found.
     
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  12. Prosoccercdn

    Prosoccercdn Member+

    Aug 6, 2011
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    They could still relocate if the price for NASL's Atlanta is less than the $3 million expansion fee for a new club making it a more cost effective option.
     
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  13. bremen24

    bremen24 Member

    Jul 12, 2014
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Since it's league owned there is no reason to give a discount to the expansion fee.
     
  14. Prosoccercdn

    Prosoccercdn Member+

    Aug 6, 2011
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Reason would be to sell at a lower price than 3 mil and have the club move to another market rather than fold it and have the league contract by 1 club and get zippo for Atlanta.
     
  15. bremen24

    bremen24 Member

    Jul 12, 2014
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    That assumes the new owner isn't willing to pay 3mm, in which case you prob don't want them in the league anyway.
     
  16. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rich people also like discounts and/or having other people pay for their shit.
     
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  17. irish56

    irish56 Member+

    Oct 30, 2006
    indy
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who doesn't?
     
  18. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They especially like when taxpayers foot the bill for things like stadiums even when they are mega-billionaires (Hi, Sheik Mansour).
     
  19. bremen24

    bremen24 Member

    Jul 12, 2014
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    So? The seller has to be willing to offer a discount. The problem here is people seem to think buying Atlanta is functionally different than buying a new expansion, it isn't. To the league shutting Atlanta and selling an expansion is no different from selling an expansion and contracting Atlanta. If nobody buys and the league contracts by one, so be it, it isn't like they need to keep an even number of teams or something.
     
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  20. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree.

    The only way i see a move is if the league keeps ownership and moves the team.
     
  21. wellington

    wellington Member

    Jun 4, 1999
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Memphis would not necessarily be at the top of my list, but with a committed owner (that's the rub with most markets) and I think they could make a real go of it...
     
  22. Sporting Real

    Sporting Real Member+

    Jun 29, 2011
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has there every really been anything resembling a soccer culture in Memphis? They would seem to be at the bottom of the 'outside the box candidates' list
     
  23. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While a relevant comment, it reminds me of what people said of Orlando 5-10 years ago. And for the most part I agreed. No matter how many events, emails or phone calls, the most we had show up was 100s. Now look at them. Just saying, if the ownership, drive and money is there and there's a decent population and age groups, anything can happen.
     
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  24. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And team owners don't always like someone getting franchises for less than the going rate.

    A prospective owner would get a better deal taking the cheaper option, but ( a ) they're not really getting anything of value since there are few carryover player contracts, local sponsorship agreements would be worthless and the Silverbacks' "brand" carries no weight in any other city and ( b ) there's nothing in it for the league to sell the existing franchise rights for less than an expansion team would fetch. So ( c ) you'd be letting someone into the league with what would be absolutely no different than an expansion franchise for less than the cost of an expansion franchise.
     
  25. hittentot

    hittentot Member

    Jul 14, 2015
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    I really wonder why Detroit hasn't got a professional soccer team yet. They should join the NASL next season.
     

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