Rapids MLS Season is Over - What Should They Do?

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  1. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Understood, and the reason I said I wasn't running C38. You guys have more issues to consider than I do, which is largely just the play on the field.
     
  2. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    They should play their best line-up in the Open cup, it is the best chance for glory this season. As for the league, it's not over yet, but soon they should just aim to entertain. Lose 7-2? Who cares, At least we see a Gerard hat-trick. Except for the games against RSL and Seattle, let's try to win those games, and if we can't damage their records, let's kick the crap out of them.
     
  3. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    In other words leverage to give the Rapids a little less money for a crappy product then the average fan. ;)
     
  4. Sports Yak

    Sports Yak Member+

    Jul 17, 2007
    Lakewood
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    First, I want to thank you guys for making me laugh. There were a bunch of laugh out loud lines in this thread.

    As for the Rapids strategy, I'll make a baseball analogy. Near the All-Star break, there are buyers and sellers. Teams make a run for the playoffs or build for next year. The Rapids should be sellers. I know there aren't huge trades like baseball, but play the young guys to identify who might help in the future. Fans can handle rebuilding years--particularly in Denver. It's the years when a team just brings in different journeyman retreads that drives me crazy.

    And I'll agree with the team that O'Neill didn't set the world on fire his first couple of years. But to get down on a CB that early in his career makes no sense to me. Particularly on defense you have to have a little patience.
     
  5. ~F8~

    ~F8~ Member

    Sep 5, 2008
    grindin
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I also tend to forget that tha Rockies aren't owned by KSE. Dick Montfort seems like such an honorary Kroenke to me, I don't think any harm would be done by putting his team on a tifo. :thumbsup:
     
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  6. GreatGonzo

    GreatGonzo Member+

    Jul 1, 1999
    MA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    At this point, I want to see a change in formation. Hard to be worse than what we've currently got. Admittedly, I have no idea what to replace it with, but this 4-2-3-1 just isn't working.
     
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  7. Waterboy14

    Waterboy14 Member

    Mar 29, 2006
    Apologize to Deshorn Brown
     
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  8. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Refund all season tickets.
    2. Fire the RFO. Every last one of them.
    3. Apologize to Transamerica, and beg them to continue sponsoring the team.
    4. Unload the dead weight on the roster.
    5. Play the players who will be on the 2016 roster.
    6. Hire somebody for the new RFO who has both soccer knowledge and competence. (People like this aren't unicorns. They really do exist. Other teams have them.)
    7. Stop trolling the relegation brackets of second divisions for has-beens and never-will-be-anythings. Spend some money and get real players for 2016.
    8. Start acting like a professional sports team. Stop with the lame excuses. Get real. Stop whining about losses and draws and demand wins or else from the front office, coaches and players.
    9. Or else sell the team to somebody who cares.
     
  9. _Ace_

    _Ace_ Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    I wish it was Colo.
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Win the Rocky Mountain Cup.
    2. Put an emphasis on U.S. Open Cup.
    3. Try to get our new forwards to score goals.
     
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  10. Cos_Mos

    Cos_Mos Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Broomfield
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even in everything else happened, #6 is still going to be the problem. There is NOBODY at KSE who would know who to hire. They are business people NOT soccer people. I think the only hope is that they stumble onto a diamond in the rough somehow. They certainly hoped it would be Pablo. Maybe it will be Lopez or Mullen or they will give Dillon Powers a try in 10 years after he retires! Achieving #6 would just be dumb luck and I think KSE knows it.
     
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  11. AvaiBunton

    AvaiBunton Member

    Oct 24, 2010
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm starting work on the Tifo design for the All Star tonight...
    Reaper with tombstones. I won't be at the game but I'll get it to someone who can handle getting into the stadium
     
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  12. GreatZar

    GreatZar Member

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Mar 29, 1999
    Denver, CO, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about making front office types in the stadium on game day VERY uncomfortable? For example:

    Me very loudly to FO person on concourse w/100s around: What are the Rapids doing to correct the garbage play and coaching?
    FO person: (whatever they say, interrupt)
    Me: Do you expect anyone to return and watch this garbage?
    FO person: (whatever they say, interrupt)
    Me: How does Hinchey sleep at night stealing our money? Do you enjoy working for KSE and Hinchey?

    etc...
     
  13. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    FO person: (under his breath) thanks for buying a ticket and beer and...
     
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  14. murphyskicks

    murphyskicks Member

    May 15, 2009
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    St Louis Rams
    Colorado Avs
    Colorado Rapids
    Denver Nuggets
    Arsenal

    Four TERRIBLE franchises and Arsenal. How in the heck has Arsenal not tanked with KSE's terrible management. I just don't get it. I feel bad for all of us Rapids fans. We deserve better.
     
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  15. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Arsenal has a board w/ non-KSE 'Fit-bah' people on it.
     
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  16. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    #41 jayd8888, Jun 29, 2015
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    When the day comes. KSE's price point for a suitable Arsene Wenger replacement go very far in replicating the magic trick they performed on the Nuggets and Avs.

    Plus the involved media there helps, I recall when KSE took $50M out of team they screamed about lack of player buying, constant player selling and also that Stan just bought a house for exactly the same amount.
     
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  17. 22SteveD

    22SteveD Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2011
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #42 22SteveD, Jun 29, 2015
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2015
    Arsene Wenger gives the finger to any suggestion that comes from a Kroenke.
     
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  18. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    And rightly so. KSE knows nothing about running a successful sports franchise.
     
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  19. Cos_Mos

    Cos_Mos Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Broomfield
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The real problem is that KSE defines "successful" differently than we do. I believe that KSE's bottom line is SUCCESSFUL!
     
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  20. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO

    I have serious doubts.
     
  21. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    My feelings over this have solidified and I think the only way forward, the only way this team can get on the ladder to where fans want to go, is to clean out the front office. Clearly, the front office will not resign or fire themselves. This must be done by the ownership.

    I don't believe it will be done by embarrassing them with a banner or tivo's. In fact that would probably cause them to dig in further.

    I think the appropriate title for this thread should now be, what should the fans do.

    We need to stop supporting a bad product. I've made this analogy in the past, a company will never change their product if people keep buying it.

    STOP BUYING.
     
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  22. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @DavidJames is 100% correct. KSe only response to two things, embarrassment in the press and the bottom line. If the Hinchey-Bianchi debacle making national news like Olbermann wasn't enough to get a change then negative press is out (because not enough people care about the Rapids). So the only way to get a change is to hurt the bottom line. In other words, stop buying stuff from KSE.

    I made a pledge at the end of last season that I wouldn't buy any more Rapids merchandise, and I haven't (well I broke it once to buy a Rapids plush for my new nephew, but that only happens twice in my life). I only bought season tickets this year because C38 had already paid the Rapids for the section, me buying tickets or not wouldn't hurt KSE at that point. I'm not buying tickets to any Rapids activities put on by KSE. If we had another USOC match I wouldn't go.

    As we've seen the discussion on if C38 should renew their deal has already started. I think they shouldn't but I'm only one voice.
     
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  23. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Olympic qualifying, will KSE get any of that $, will DSGP get any USA matches?
     
  24. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty sure that the USSf keeps all ticket revenue from U.S. Nats matches. I know they bring in their own ticketing staff and everything.

    Now I'm sure the USSF is paying a rental fee to KSE for use of the stadium, but that's going to be paid regardless if I go or not.
     
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  25. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO

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