Qatar 2022

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Berchtesgaden

    Berchtesgaden Member+

    May 18, 2011
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Yes because England's group included San Marino, Moldava and Montenegro
     
  2. LastBoyscout

    LastBoyscout Member+

    Mar 6, 2013
    You are right, that is kind of funny.
     
  3. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Yes Qatar bid for a Summer World Cup.
    FIFA then changed the dates.

    So, we all get this now.


    So, it makes you frustrated to see it being played in Winter. It frustrates me aswell, i've said this all along....but Winter it is, and i can't keep looking to the past otherwise it will drive me mad. I have to look to the future. If you keep Summer 2022 in your head then you'll be very disappointed come that time.

    So, you want it to be re-bid on.....but then everything must change. FIFA can no longer stick to summer, they have to entertain bids for all times of the year. So, come the African slot again, get use to Jan/Feb. The world keeps moving, don't get stale and stand still. Are you still shouting for a 16 team finals? A 24 team finals? Things change. Don't stand still or you'll get left behind.
     
  4. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    I know, it's terrible how qualification is made easy for them and then they suffer at the finals by not being prepared.
    It hurts me to see my nation fail.
     
  5. Berchtesgaden

    Berchtesgaden Member+

    May 18, 2011
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    No it makes people frustrated that other bidders were deceived by FIFA and their decision bailed out a bid that failed to meet it's stated objectives.
     
  6. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Still no sign of "Qatar fan"....
     
  7. Berchtesgaden

    Berchtesgaden Member+

    May 18, 2011
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I would have thought Qatar could afford a better BS propaganda director. I know I could do better.
     
  8. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    I disagree. '18 and '22 were bid as summer WC's. Any rebidding can and should be for a summer WC.
     
  9. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    That's fine, but what about future world cups?
     
  10. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    This thread is about Qatar '22.
     
  11. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Oh Ok, but you mentioned Russia 2018 in the post i quoted? You've also had many posts that have nothing to do with 2022. But when the pressure comes on about future world cups of which you could answer because of the events that are happening for 2022, you wilt.

    I'd be fine with 2026 being hosted at any time of the year.
     
  12. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    If you want to discuss it in the existing '26 thread then do so.

    '18 and '22 were bid together; hence the comment about any rebidding being in accordance with that bidding.
     
  13. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Are both '18 and '22 being re-bid? I didn't realise. And just because they were both announced on the same day doesn't mean they both need to come up in the discussion for 2022. Please try to focus on 2022 here and 2018 in the 2018 thread, otherwise you could come across that both are the same.
     
  14. whitecloud

    whitecloud Member+

    Jan 25, 2009
    Gulf Shores, AL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where did the FIFA development grant money go that is supposed to do things like make improvements at stadiums?

    Why is Qatar even paying for such things? FIFA has distributed hundreds of millions of dollars to do this kind of work.
     
  15. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Please join me in this thread http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/kyrgyzstan-football.1004351/ and we can ask them.
     
  16. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Is either being rebid? I didn't realize that.
     
  17. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    You brought up re-bidding. Please tell me when it's happening.
     
  18. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    You can't even keep your trolling straight:


     
  19. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    great quote.
    so, you have never talked of a re bid at all before today?
    my mistake and apologises if your never have.
     
  20. Cyclonis

    Cyclonis Forza Juve

    Jul 12, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I remember when they telling us these fairy tales about air conditioned stadiums. We were later to learn that these were lies designed to get the bid and start the motion for petitions to move the cup to the winter. *sigh* As if this thing did not stink enough.

    Qatar has never qualified for the cup and has essentially bought the World Cup and FIFA. The way I see it, El Salvador has more right to host the tournament than them, but of course, El Salvador is not rich with oil money. The decision to go with Qatar was a GIANT step away from when FIFA decided to keep the 1962 tournament in Chile after an earthquake had devastated the country. Then, the tournament was held up as something that could benefit a nation hit by tragedy. Giving it to Qatar reduced the World Cup to a play thing for rich oil barons when it could and should be so much more.
     
  21. Chastaen

    Chastaen Member+

    Alavés
    Jul 9, 2004
    Winnipeg
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You couldn't find anyone to help you out? You got my hopes up with 'talking football' and this was all you had?

    I couldn't care less when they play the Cup. I understand that scheduling a Cup in the winter has some horrible impacts, but that can be dealt with if everyone is on board. Your make believe comments are really worthless. 16 team finals and 24 team finals have nothing to do with anything. It is the weakness of your stance that leaves that as your 'talking football' reply. Was "talking football" really supposed to mean 'babble football stuff not related to the Qatar World Cup'? Because it really is disappointing, but not unexpected.

    Maybe try a more intelligent response...
     
  22. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No; you apparently don't.

    The problem is that Qatar promised they could deliver a summer world cup that would be safe and comfortable for players and fans, with all of the stadiums air-conditioned to about 80 F (26 C).

    Then, after the bid was completed, the architects came out and said, no, actually, that's not possible. We'll just make sure all the seats are in the shade and put in some big fans, and it'll be more like 85-90 F (30 C).

    Then FIFA and FIFPRO actually looked into it and said, no, even if you can cool down the stadiums a little, it's not going to be safe for the players or the fans.

    In other words: Qatar lied in their bid materials, and their promises of magic floating air-conditioning clouds are not realistic.

    That's what people have a problem with. Nobody voted for a winter World Cup; they voted for a summer World Cup with floating air conditioners. It would be one thing if Qatar was upfront about this and said, we would like to host, but realistically, we will have to do it in the winter. They didn't; they set up a bait and switch. If they can't deliver on the bid they placed, the tournament should be rebid.

    This is separate, of course, from the strong evidence that Qatar bribed Jack Warner, Michel Platini, and others (and interfered with the Oceanea vote), which is a strong independent basis for re-voting 2022.
     
    Berchtesgaden repped this.
  23. Timanfaya

    Timanfaya Member+

    May 31, 2005
    Southampton
    Like I said, if you had been banned you would not have been able to announce your own departure.

    You weren't banned, you flounced:
    You could have continued to post, if you were just here for a chat, but you are just a troll. And like other pro-Qatar trolls you were called off for a while, that's why you didn't post.
     
  24. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Eh no. I was banned. The means I couldn't post. And now the ban is up, I can post again.

    It's good to hear from you that all your opinion is, that if you are pro-Qatar your a troll. It's good to hear that if we don't agree with your opinion, then your automatically given the title of troll.
     
  25. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    No one want's to talk football.

    Your going over and over the same topic time after time.....this won't get you anywhere.

    Do you want to ask any questions of the World Cup in it's current time frame or do you still want to hope that it will get pulled? If that is your hope then that's fine. But what's the point in posting the same story over and over again?
     

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