A Little Retail Therapy: The 2014 Summer Transfer Thread

I'm pretty sure Mathieu was used at LB more often than Adriano was.

 

EMD is saying that FIFA have informed Barcelona that they are not allowed to bring Denis Suarez back this summer. Barca were under the impression that as Suarez was only on loan with Sevilla, but EMD reports the governing body have informed La Blaugrana they can’t end the agreement early.

no one thought it might be a good idea to confirm this before sending him on loan??

 

more on DiMaria.
interesting stuff. Sport claims that he has a clause in his contract that Madrid would get ten million euros if DiMaria is sold to Barca. so if Barca were to sign him he would cost about €85million, but he would cost €75million for anyone else.

 

So was he or wasn't he on loan?
If not, then what was the deal agreed to with Sevilla?
If he was, does he remain with Sevilla until January?

 

my bad.
here's the full sentence that i copied from (i edited incorrectly):

"Barca were under the impression that as Suarez was only on loan with Los Rojiblancos, they could reincorporate him into their squad despite being banned from making signings until January 2016."

so, he was/is on loan. the question is whether or not bringing him back before the end of his loan would count as an incoming transfer. FIFA seems to be saying that it does.

but i haven't seen this confirmed anywhere else.

 

I am guessing that the D. Suarez recall was rejected by FIFA (assuming the story is true) because there was a buyback requirement (3 million euros I think). It sounds sort of like a sale + buyback, rather than a loan. Bummer if true - I was looking forward to him in Blaugrana colors. I am not sure if he'll stay at Sevilla until January and then return, Sevilla might not be too keen on losing a player in January.

DiMaria is a great player, but not someone I want. If a midfielder is going to be that expensive, at least he could be young so he'd be around for awhile. Plus, F--- giving Madrid a dime.

 

"Suarez was sent to Nervion on a two-year loan in the summer of 2014"...

Ah, I get it all now.

 

The Di Maria rumors seem to be as half-baked as the Pogba ones. How are we going to bring in top-level talent with a transfer ban? Have the players sit out half a year? Not a chance these guys would do that. Sign a pre-transfer contract promosing they'll come in January? I highly doubt that Man Utd or Juve would ever do that. These rumors are just EMD and Sport selling papers through the summer.

Sport is also reporting that Montoya is going on a two year loan to Inter with a 9 million buyout at the end. Unless this is part of a deal for Kovacic, let's sell now and be done with him.

 

I dunno. I mean, half-a-year out is only half-the-truth. They can train, get to know the new city, new team-mates, and get full salary, and it's not also less than half-a-year they'd not play. I reckon some players might be ok with it, some not, but it's too simple to say nobody would do it.

As for Di Maria and Pogba, I do agree that Di Maria seems typical BS summer gossip to sell papers and that's it. But I don't think Pogba is a similar case. We sign high-profile players regularly, and we have a genuine need for a player in his position. That said, it looks rather likely that IF we sign Pogba, he only joins the next summer. But who knows where Pogba plays in the future: Juve, Barca, other. Anyway it seems to me that we are a realistical candidate to sign him, whereas I'd eat my hat if Di Maria ends up joining.

Agreed: better to sell than loan Montoya.

 

looks like Barca have passed on their option on Kenedy, as Chelsea seems to have agreed a deal to sign him.

no word on Gerson.

 

If he doesn't complete a transfer today then apparently his buy-out goes back up to 50M Euros (from the cut rate price of 12M Euros), so all will be clear by the end of the day and it is looking good for him to stay. The real question is will he play more now that Verm is presumably also in the mix for minutes at CB? Will he (or Pedro) back up Alves at RB if Montoya and Adriano go, at least till January when Vidal registers? Also, will Bartra be available for a cut rate again next June if he stays but he doesn't play the requisite minutes this coming season? If so he may not elect to stay again. Almost makes me want to sell Verm but then Verm's value is low till he proves he can play again that we basically would be either loaning him out or taking pennies on the dollar of what we paid for him.

Here are a few names that may not ever play for Barca but who could be on the move at reasonable prices. The sad truth is that Barca tends to pay 150% more that their rumored current transfer values for players like this after they've had a good year or two at a Roma, or Porto, or Arsenal, etc. http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jun/30/transfer-window-12-best-deals-summer

 

Can anybody explain to me why we're going after Pogba and not Verratti? Verratti seems so much more suited to us. I suppose perhaps he's on PSG, so he may not really be for sale, but surely he actually wouldn't cost as much as Pogba.

 

PSG is a nightmare club to buy from, Pogba is more marketable, and Pogba is more or less the better player (although it's quite close, and they're also somewhat different players).

FWIW, I think both players would suit us well, and if we'd go after one of the two, we could ask why not the other one? Both are fine, super expensive players that would make any team better.

 

Why do you think Pogba suits us well? I've not watched tons of his matches, but my understanding is that he's a much much more direct player than we typically like (even now that we are a bit more direct under Enrique). Verratti, on the other hand, seems like a Xavi type of player.

 

Not to go into detail why Pogba suits us, but he is simply a top quality midfielder. Why wouldn't he fit us? He can run, shoot, pass, dribble, etc. I think our style demands good passers, but I don't think we necessarily should look for copies as replacements. Xavi left, and we need a replacement, but the replacement doesn't have to a copy of Xavi - we can alter our style by signing another kind of player. Not that I'd be against Verratti, but it's just that I do understand why we want Pogba.

 

@barcastuff
Barcelona, who have first option, have five days to equal Juventus' 16M bid for Fluminense's Gerson. Executives are in Brazil. [espn rac1]

 

Secret mid already signed, according to Barto, but what happens if he is not elected, does the secret signing disappear? http://www.sport-english.com/en/new...is-secret-midfielder-has-been-secured-4316032

 

Digging deeper into speculative websites the leading candidate is Koke. So vote Barto get Koke in January, or vote Laporta and get Pogba next June (now with Abidal). I hate elections and the transfer ban is worse still. But yeah either of those players (or Isco, Verratti, di Maria, Thiago Alcantara would set up our midfield with great depth and ready to survive an injury or the eventual phasing out of Iniesta into more of a Xavi (2013-2015) like role. But none of the owners of those players need to sell, and most esp. don't need to sell to Barca. http://www.barcablaugranes.com/2015...with-presidency-candidates-mystery-player-for
Earlier Barto comments / rumors also say it is a Primera player (so only Koke and Isco fit in, but obviously others could too).

 

What do you think about the Arda Turan rumours?