Precourt's black out of Crew history continues - Goodbye Yellow Jerseys

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  1. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    #126 ZipSix, Jun 11, 2015
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2015
    Screw you, Precourt with your "deep breaths." Your stupid office started this shit by leaking to MR. You haven't earned out trust.

    You change:
    • the name of the club
    • the mascot
    • the hashtag
    • the crest
    • the primary jersey color
    Why don't you stop and take a breath?
     
  2. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zip, I agree with your point on this particular specific regarding the colors. But I'm just having a hard time getting worked up over some of the others.
    OK, yeah. I was skeptical of that as well. BEFORE. I spent a long, long time following this club, and was wary of seeing its identity completely change. But...

    Before the name change, the club was the Columbus Crew. Now, it's Columbus Crew SC. Oooooh, major culture shock there. o_O It's not like he re-named it the Central Ohio Roadrunners, or the Ohio State Kickeyes or something ridiculous. The old name is entirely contained in the new name. It's not that big of a change. Really.
    Really? You're so worried about making this point you're complaining about Crew Cat? For realz?

    If you're a grown man, and you're losing sleep about the mascot, you've gotta get a f****ng life. Sorry.
    Again -- really? The goddamn hashtag? I'm sure that was a major adjustment to your life.
    OK... I was one of the people who had grown to love the old crest as well. I thought it was fine, and I loved the fact that we were the only club left that was still on its original badge. But what did you expect? They'd go through to trouble of having a re-brand, including a tweak of the club name, and the badge wasn't going to reflect it?

    The badge is great, BTW. They included many aspects that us internet villagers had been BEGGING to have included for a long time. The name of the city. The original badge. 96. The nod to the state flag. Hell, they even threw the checkerboard in to give a shout out to the fans.
    But as much as I disagree with you on the rest, this is where everything could go to hell in a hurry.

    The reason why I was very hesitant towards the re-brand before it happened -- and the reason why I got on board quickly after, and we're getting nervous again now -- is because they kept the colors. He recognized that the color of a team's main jersey is the single most visible thing that creates that visceral connection to the fan base. We click on a game, or show up at the stadium, and we see those yellow kits, and we just "feel" it. We know right away -- these are our guys. It's what we know.

    So whatever else changes, we see the team colors and we know that something's still right with the universe. Don't f*** with it.

    Now... I'm not saying we're not allowed to have a different color jersey. Far from it. While a lot of other people were always begging for a third jersey, I was always wondering what the point of that was when we never wore our second jerseys. By all means -- have an alternate jersey that goes completely off track. Fine. Nothing wrong with switching it up occasionally. But if they do so AT THE EXPENSE of the gold kits, that's a terrible idea.

    And don't criticize the fan base's reaction for your own lack of clarity in passing the information along. I also don't get why you'd create a badge with the old colors dominating it only to turn around a year or two later and go "ah, this just in..."
     
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  3. crew2112

    crew2112 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Dayton, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    The seats in our stadium are yellow. Our brand new logo contains yellow.
    Precourt has stated he likes black and yellow as our colors. Calm the F down people. It's a gd jersey.
    This whole episode is symptomatic of the Twitter culture. My opinion matters (no it doesn't). I'm gonna yell at the multimillionaire owner of a professional sports team (shows a lack of respect by you). It's his club. He can do what he wishes. Any of you are free to buy the club from him. As a good business owner, he doesn't want to piss off his customers.
    The whole Twitter shit just reminds me of how different life is when your first worry is survival and not what's currently between Bruce jenner's legs.
     
  4. Jaybir

    Jaybir Member+

    Feb 24, 2014
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    I love the yellow kits. Perhaps they will be back a lot sooner than expected - sorta like classic Coke. But they too were a change from our original 96 jersey that I still wear on special occasions. The yellow kits were a good change IMO. But only IMO. Perhaps there were some people out there who were standing on the ledge when the 96 bumble bee jerseys changed. But hey, passion is fun.

    What I struggle with is the mentality that supporting the FO is embarrassing and those who do, should be insulted. I think constant criticism and negativity is far more embarrassing. I have been both a supporter and a critic of the current FO. I will likely continue to be both. In general, I tend to grant the benefit of doubt. And overall, I have actually liked the directional changes. Do I agree with changing the kits? No real opinion yet. I don't have enough information. Do I think it is some colossal offense? Nah. Do I think there are other things we should be focused on? Hell yes.

    So what makes me sick? Watching the cool goal Mix got against Germany this week and wondering what might have been. Watching Giovinco light things up as I realize we will never be able to pay a player $7m. Never, that is, until we start filling the stadium and building our fan base - Something, by the way, that is difficult to do without positive energy.
     
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  5. patricksp

    patricksp 91.9 Crew Fan Rating

    Nov 4, 2007
    Columbus
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    United States
    They tried to sell the Lego McBride and that still bothers me they tried to do that.
     
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  6. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
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    I know you're being your normal self breaking things down to an absurd degree, but my whole point, which I'm pretty sure you understand, is that it's been a series of changes. So while there's no cause to lose sleep over the mascot, I think in total you can see that they are tinkering with all of the club's iconography.

    Just because you are fine with 3/5ths of the change doesn't mean dude hasn't shown a pattern of conduct.
     
  7. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    I'm troubled that you sought out this image. Or that you might even have others.:confused:
     
  8. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Let me get this straight. There is a spoiled brat kid in California who doesn't like yellow so his dad is looking to change the color of a franchise's primary jersey, angering a good percentage of the fan base?
    A worse thought yet--personnel decisions might come from the kids?!?!?o_O
     
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  9. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Dec 28, 2014
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    Maybe the crest will be monochrome black-and-white.
    Which makes all such crests dull.
    What sucks is that back in the old days, there were a lot of MLS teams that wore black or white. Then there was this explosion of color, and fans could identify with their team based on a color.
    I hate to think the trend is going backward.
    Monochrome...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
     
  10. redi44crew

    redi44crew Member+

    Mar 27, 2007
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Do you think the ever changing line-up is a side effect of all the other changes?
     
  11. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Emphasis mine.
     
  12. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where did you read that? I looked at his twitter feed (though admittedly I don't know shit about twitter, so I might have missed it) and didn't see what you are saying, about not "probably" changing the crest.
     
  13. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Putting the "probably" in quotes was poor writing by me. I just don't trust a thing Precourt says. He's a snake oil salesman. Sure, Black and Yellow will always be our colors he says. So if we do away with a yellow primary jersey and take on the Columbus city flag in a "funky" new jersey what sense does it make to keep the black and yellow in the crest? Their is an established pattern here of change for the sake of change

    The guy has a pattern of changing things as he pleases. He knows that there will be a small army of internet minions who will take up for whatever decision he makes, and shout down anyone who questions his decisions. He can put on blinders and look only at that army and convince himself that's representative of the fan-base as a whole. It's an enormous ego boost for a guy who already has a messiah complex. Onward, Precourt's soldiers.
     
  14. mmradio13

    mmradio13 Member+

    Apr 13, 2008
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    HOW DARE HE CHANGE THE HASHTAG
     
  15. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
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    Aug 19, 2008
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    Columbus Crew
    I agree with @ZipSix here. It's not so much that Precourt changed the hashtag--obviously that's not an important thing (like @KCbus detailed). It is the forced nature of the new "Crew SC" name. We've already discussed the name change in excruciating detail, but having everyone on the broadcast team, the hashtag, and the mascot all include SC at the cost of other things ("96" in the hashtag and "Cat" on the mascot are not a threat to the new brand IMO) seems too heavy handed and forced. It makes the new brand seem lame, ultimately. The new brand would be cooler if it didn't feel so forced.

    I'm going to hold off on my judgment of this whole situation until the new jerseys are revealed. However, I am of the mind that a banana kit has become this team's brand, despite the fact that the away jersey is a nicer looking thing to wear around town (IMO). Like Napoli sky blue, Liverpool or ManU red, or Brazil's gold...it is nice to have a color that is so clearly identifiable in the league. Black doesn't have that same visual branding/cue. In sum, I'm skeptical that this is a good PR move, but we'll see what the end product looks like in the coming year.
     
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  16. mmradio13

    mmradio13 Member+

    Apr 13, 2008
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Take my eyes but not my hashtag.

    Does anybody here even know how Crew Cat became our mascot?
     
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  17. cam5fc

    cam5fc Member+

    Sep 23, 2008
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    #, so-called name change and mascot are changes that you want to group in with a series of other major changes (Crest and primary kit) to show a history of change? Give me a #breakSC. Those things are so inconsequential that its ridiculous to even mention them.

    • The #hashtagSC is a pointless communication method
    • Honestly, you're nit-picking if #'SC'SC changes the name
    • Crew Cat? Really? You're #addingSC this to the whole thing when the last time you cared or even thought of Crew Cat was when he was in your face preventing you from watching the game like an annoying #capoSC?
    • Even though it was with the #HuntsSC, lets just group the Crewzers into this madness.

    Why don't we just have Precourt get his money back from the Hunts and lets go back to operation under the stagnant ownership of HSG. Let's get the buddy-system of hiring from within just because you like the guy and because of #loyaltySC or whatever.

    If acting like the world is #endingSC because of the yellow, maybe you should root for FC Dallas.
     
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  18. Zak

    Zak Member

    Feb 18, 2002
    Massive Club
    We just can't bring ourselves to have 140+ posts on how disappointed we are in the team's play over the last few weeks....
     
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  19. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
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    Columbus Crew
    Trust the process. Precourt and our Sporting Director are playing rope-a-dope with the last year and a half of mediocrity. We'll climb the power rankings soon enough.
     
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  20. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Give me hashtag or give me death
    The is going to lead to the Columbus Hashtag Party where we dump all of the hashtags into the Olentangy.
     
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  21. pjguldan

    pjguldan Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Nope, not leaked to us. This was a timely tip, a bit of good luck, and plain old digging with other contacts.
     
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  22. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Just for funsies, why don't you attempt to entertain my point of view for a moment instead of calling for me to support a different team.
     
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  23. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How does a timely tip differ from a leak?
     
  24. pjguldan

    pjguldan Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because it had zero connections to the team. It was a twitter tip from a fan about the original Adidas catalog.

    To put it directly, this did not come from the team.
     
  25. KHT_Crew

    KHT_Crew Member+

    Mar 29, 2003
    Queen City, OH
    Ah, the mysterious Capo Throat...
    [​IMG]
     
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