Get your popcorn ready: The Qatar WC 2022 Drama Thread

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  1. danielh

    danielh Member+

    May 30, 2013
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    I never said he wasn't a major part of this indictment. Hopefully Lynch is better at prosecuting white collar crime, because certainly Eric Holder wasn't.
     
  2. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    I love a lot of things about this story, today's events that is. And one of those things is how good a job USA & Suisse did at keeping this hush hush until they raided their offices. I surely hope FIFA wasn't tipped off and that they wre really blind-sided.

    Everyone with any knowledge of football knows how corrupt FIFA is and how awful Blatter is. But they seemed collectively scared to call him on all the crap that he supervises. Maybe now, these raids will give them the guts they need to stand up to him. He's just a beneficent bully. And justice must come!
     
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  3. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    One more thought I had tonite was about what this does to the USA's probabilities of hosting a WC. If Blatter survives I guess it'll be near zero for a while. Can't imagine he's too thrilled with USA Govt right now. But if he's ousted and if FIFA really cleans house, maybe we've got a chance. Maybe even in 2022? ;)
     
  4. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

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    its why i have no interest in UEFA taking a stand now. They spread their legs for the Gulf states.
     
  5. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

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    dude, this investigation is about the USA hosting the 2016 Copa America.

    I have ot keep explaining this to us fans but if you wanna clean things up, there needs to be an examination of all the federations including the USSF. How the hell does a nation with no first division league, no soccer stadiums, and no real fanbase get a world cup in 1994?

    Also, and this is most critical, UEFA a)voted for the Russian and Qatar bids b)want to keep the sport completely European.

    For all of Blatter's corruption, he has made the sport accessible for everyone, including the US, and kept UEFA in check.
     
  6. Shen-O

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    Didn't have to invest in infrastructure like other countries. The US has the biggest collection of large stadiums in the world probably? WC 94 ended up being the most profitable and I'm sure that's what FIFA counted on when they awarded it to the US.
     
  7. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
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    Yeah, Chuck Blazer was apart of the bid process and helped run the 1994 games.

    Jack Warner was head of CONCACAF too back then.

    It wasnt clean, m8.
     
  8. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

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    I didn't say it was clean, I said there's a very huge reason why they were chosen. Could be dirty but it would be hard to think a tourney in the US would not generate lots of $$$.
     
  9. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

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    and it was dirty.

    My point is the US aren't white knights.
     
  10. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    What are you on about Prince? You seem like the king of strawmen.
     
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  11. aphex

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    [​IMG]
    best ever
     
  12. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

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    I am harsh reality.
     
  13. aphex

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    You're just getting a message across that the world has accepted long ago... in a time before time
     
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  14. antifan

    antifan Member+

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    I think those stadiums are what doomed our chances of getting another WC bid. If you don't have to build stadiums, like the US and England don't, then how are the FIFA guys going to skim and steer those construction contracts?
     
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  15. danielh

    danielh Member+

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    There's probably corruption in there too, but the United States on paper would be a good place to host for many a reason -- increasing awareness of it in a country with big dollars and a low fan base, infrastructure mostly in place, without the grass pitch, super diverse country with lots of immigrants that would go see games. It's much harder to justify Russia/Qatar, because on paper it plain stinks.

    But I agree with you, there is no way our hands are clean too, and Platini can go eff himself, he's pretty much just Blatter-lite, who just happened to play the game really well. I think if Platini wasn't a legend of the game, he'd be just as reviled as Sepp is.
     
  16. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

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    yeah def

    I think if Australia got the WC in 2022 and was just as corrupt, people would not have turned their heads so fast.
     
  17. Shen-O

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    Platini has got to the next one then. UEFA pushing so hard for Qatar...funny construction contracts is the first thing that sprang to mind, just like US government officials who had the same set up when we invaded Iraq. Construction contracts. Supposed to be the reason why James Rodriguez was bought by Real Madrid, construction contracts in Colombia.
     
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  18. maskito

    maskito Member+

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    Joao Havelange the head of FIFA when the U.S. was awarded WC '94 - why is Blatter getting credit for promoting the U.S. under his tenure ? Even on the women's side WC '99 was selected when Havelange was still running FIFA.

    I'm not saying there was no corruption within FIFA back then, or that the U.S. didn't participate in some bribes - just wanting to be sure we are attributing the the correct scoundrels.

    And I have to think that FIFA knew something was up. Last week there were numerous reports that Blatter refused to travel to the U.S. out of fear of arrest from the FBI. Now what is unknown is whether FIFA expected raids in Switzlerland. So the question is really whether they felt "safe" in Switzlerland or whether they started to get the paper shredders running at the home office.
     
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  19. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

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    If you aren't a total moron you start shredding as soon as the money is deposited into your acct. I'm sure they cranked up the shredding the last couple days
     
  20. Darth Norteño

    Darth Norteño With Buddha In My Fists

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    Dec 9, 2003
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    I wouldn't say that.
     
  21. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

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    How ********ing funny would it be if all of the investigations really showed that Blatter was just an innocent old dude after all, doing his best to bring the game to everyone.

    Obviously....not gonna happen, but I just wouldn't be shocked.
     
  22. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
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    Haha shock people getting mad when prince brings up corruption in usa like it doesn't happen. Fact-havelange wad as corrupt as blatter. No doubt usa and England's recent bids contained gifts and bungs. But obviously not enough. We have more reason to host than usa (1966 is about a hundred years ago) but fifa hate England

    The whole football world is corrupt, to me it sounds like the us representative got caught and is now singing to the fri?
     
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  23. Silock

    Silock Member

    Feb 8, 2007
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    ...and?

    I guess I just don't see why it matters. Just because a few people in the US involved with trying to bring a WC here *may* have been corrupt doesn't mean that that corruption extends to the ones that are currently investigating FIFA. They aren't the same entity, so effectively saying that the US got snubbed and is retaliating makes little sense.

    This has been coming for a LONG time, and it unfortunately isn't soon enough for the hundreds of people that have died in Qatar during/related to this whole fiasco.
     
  24. aphex

    aphex Member

    Jul 11, 2006
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    Who the hell is saying corruption doesn't happen in the US?

    This narrative tho...

    Are people just arguing against themselves?
     
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  25. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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