NYT: FIFA Officials Indicted in Corruption Case

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by joebarnin, May 27, 2015.

  1. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here he has something for you...

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    Particularly since this doesn't do anything to diminish soccer. If anything this will long term help clean up soccer which can only be good for it.
     
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  2. Bubba1971

    Bubba1971 Member+

    Nov 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure what your argument is. The US isn't #1, or #8, in soccer because most people here don't care about it. If they did care about it the US would be #1 due to shear size.

    Are you arguing that the US cares enough about soccer to actually arrest most of its governing body? Because I can tell you, they don't.

    This is the new AGs RFK moment, she's making a name for herself. Americans will care very little about the actual sporting aspect of this.
     
  3. Distorted Humor

    Jun 26, 2014
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    You seem to not understand. Soccer is not a "Threat" to other sports. This may shock you but the US actually does not care about soccer in general. MLS is owned by the same groups that own the other sports teams, and the broadcast partners are the same. They just want viewers and ticket buyers, and they would be more then happy to sell any sporting event as long as it is profitable or a viable tax writeoff.
     
  4. themightymagyar

    Aug 25, 2009
    Indianapolis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is a ludicrous assertion. The US government doesn't have an interest. It's possible the sports leagues might have an interest, but the sports leagues aren't the US government. This is a DOJ investigation. Not some NFL judicial court.
     
  5. VogelsingerKlinsmann

    Jun 22, 2014
    Yes but PR wise it's an attack on FIFA and soccer. Read the headline. It says U.S. doj is taking down FIFA.
    i see it's still real to you dammit.
     
  6. VogelsingerKlinsmann

    Jun 22, 2014
    Read the headlines though. They all say is is taking down FIFA. weber even says "us is taking on world cup fraud and giving a red card to FIFA. The or damage will go to FIFA and soccer and not concacaff etc
     
  7. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wonder if those "sacrificial lambs" won't be found and be an out FIFA gives itself from Qatar. I mean officially they've stood behind their bad decision to date, as you'd expect them to, and they can't exactly turn on Qatar without cause after the fact which is a large part why they've been so defiant and have stuck with Qatar even as it's become clear it was a mistake. Finding a few sacrificial lambs and some wrongdoing would give them that cause to pull out of the quagmire 2022 has become and and yet also claim to Qatar it's not their fault.
     
  8. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly, I couldn't give two shits -- no, actually, not even one shit -- about the flowery language a prosecutor portrays his case in a press conference. I care about the details of what's actually happening.
     
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  9. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know. From time to time I've had similar thoughts; but I would have thought that the Garcia investigation and report would have given them the vehicle to do that, and it didn't happen. Maybe.
     
  10. VogelsingerKlinsmann

    Jun 22, 2014
    That's being naive. Lobbyists put pressure on the government or politicians who do their bidding. Not saying that's the case here but it happens a lot.

    Ufc was banned in about 45 states and taken off cable in the 90s thanks to the boxing and pro wrestling lobby pressuring John MCCain (a bug boxing guy) to ban ufc/mma. It took about 10 years for that industry to recover from the ban.

    Shouldn't the new AG be going after police brutality and race relations instead of attacking a "foreign" sport. Seems like a PR move all the way to attack FIFA/soccer.

    I would have preferred that any thing against FIFA/blather come from the EU or even South America and not the us who may have ulterior motives.
     
  11. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like Jack Warner is going to be arrested in T&T and extradited to the USA

    Wow!
     
  12. hudson hooligan

    hudson hooligan Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 6, 2008
    Columbus, OH
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    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ^ Seriously, why are you guys even bothering to respond to this conspiracy theorist?
     
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  13. VogelsingerKlinsmann

    Jun 22, 2014
    Yes but that's not looking at the big picture. That applies only to you. What matters are all the U.S. sports fans who read such headlines about FIFA/soccer and get turned off to watching and following the sports. The so called mainstream sports fanbois who religiously watch NFL,NBA, mlb and thumb there noses at soccer.
     
  14. VogelsingerKlinsmann

    Jun 22, 2014
    Personal attacks only weaken your arguement.
     
  15. hudson hooligan

    hudson hooligan Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 6, 2008
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right, because NFL fans have solid ground to stand on when it comes to thumbing their noses at other sports organizations. :ROFLMAO:
     
  16. Bubba1971

    Bubba1971 Member+

    Nov 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think (or hope?) that most people think the soccer and FIFA are the same thing. A lot of people don't like the NFL but they love football. I love the Olympics, but I'd also love the see the IOC taken away in handcuffs as well.

    I'm not sure what you're worried about. The US is coming down on a bunch of guys that people have been hoping to get rid of for some time. If it were the UK or Germany I'd be just as happy about it. It just so happens that CONCACAF is headquartered in Miami.

    You seem to think that the US should let this slide because we're not that into soccer. Well, that's stupid. People broke our laws on a large scale and now they're paying the price.
     
  17. hookem88

    hookem88 Member

    Jan 29, 2015
    The Patriot Act doesn't give the US government the right to infringe on another nation's sovereignty. That is ludicrous. The US government can't just go around arresting every single person in the world who is accused of money laundering.

    As I said before, these supposed crimes were committed on US soil, which is why the US government has jurisdiction.

    Really, it's not very hard to understand.
     
  18. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Other people have already used concrete examples from incidents associated with those sports that produced far, far more horrendous PR to argue that the impact isn't likely to be large. If they didn't seem convincing to you, I doubt anything else anyone at all says could be.

    Beaver Stadium remains packed.
     
  19. Bubba1971

    Bubba1971 Member+

    Nov 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But Batman does!
     
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  20. themightymagyar

    Aug 25, 2009
    Indianapolis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pretty sure they're capable of multitasking. Or did you miss their involvement with the Cleveland police department over the past couple days? Saying you can't do one thing because there's something else that needs fixing is also quite ludicrous. I've never been in debate club, but I doubt you'd gain any points for that argument.
     
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  21. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
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    Grasshopper Club Zürich
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    Switzerland
    Glad to see a spirited discussion here, but let's keep it focused and sports-related. Thanks
     
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  22. bigtimebuck4

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  23. VogelsingerKlinsmann

    Jun 22, 2014
    I do agree with that. This is nothing more than a PR grab by Lynch against a foreign opponent.
     
  24. Chastaen

    Chastaen Member+

    Alavés
    Jul 9, 2004
    Winnipeg
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And maybe a bit more anchored in reality...
     
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  25. VogelsingerKlinsmann

    Jun 22, 2014
    Personal attacks just weaken your position because you cannot debate your position.
     

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