The Not Really About Transfer(s) Thread

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  1. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York

    yawn so moments of brilliance among absolute dreck rhe majority of the time? gotcha
     
  2. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    yup...and his overdribbling
     
  3. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    But we'll always have that Barcelona game tho
     
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  4. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Like pennants debut
     
  5. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I hadn't thought about this. To use an example from baseball, when a rookie comes in and has a lot of initial success, by the following year the rest of the league has adjusted to him and unless he tweaks his game, he won't be as successful as he was his rookie year. I suspect that Wilshire hasn't tweaked his game enough.
     
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  6. WoodDraw

    WoodDraw Member+

    May 29, 2007
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    So we're not selling JW. He's not leaving England, so there is a market of like four teams for him. And none of those would pay 30+ million for him. It's a silly discussion.
     
  7. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This Jack debate is getting tiresome.



    No one can doubt his absolute talent. If they do, they are just being obtuse. I wouldn't sell him, period. That's just me.
     
  8. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    LOL
     
  9. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
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    United States
    What?

    There's literally no doubting his overall talent. If Jack can focus, stay healthy, and just play, he will become an amazing part of the club for years to come. If he shows he can't do that, then yeah, maybe we sell. As someone said earlier, we don't need to sell our best players anymore, or players at all. We can afford to hold onto them to see if they pan out.
     
  10. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    IF IF IF IF IF IF
     
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  11. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
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    United States
    Dutch, there's nothing wrong with an IF. You say let's sell because he is an IF. I can say the same thing to the other effect. Let's not sell because he's an IF. Until we know that he won't pan out, we shouldn't sell.
     
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  12. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Jacks a great talent has to show and prove hasnt been doing a lot of that lately
     
  13. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's been out almost all year. He was pretty damn good in the first half of the season when he was fit. If he can find some consistency and playing time, then maybe we can judge. He was also playing with a first team that was in awful form, and injured.
     
  14. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Wilshere just isn't cutting it. I was amongst those who've been patient but if a £30m offer comes in, why say no? He's injury prone and inconsistent even after Scholes' criticism.
     
  15. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wilshere is still young. It's hard to say he's injury prone when his last was due to a barbaric tackle. You don't sell, within England, a highly rated, young prospect, with a lot of potential. We've already had our feel of doing that, thanks. We have the ability to wait it out and see if he comes good. No need to sell a player who could later come back and bite us in the ass.
     
  16. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    LOL who did we sell that was so great elsewhere that was English? who?
     
  17. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
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    United States
    I didn't specify English Dutch. We don't need to sell our top players or prospects anymore. Why is that so hard to get? We let RVP force his way out, we let Fab force his way out, Nasri, et. al.
     
  18. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Different times Jacks irrelevant in the grand scheme at this point and we have resources to replace him internally and via transfer what top 4 team would he make better? Zero so I dont see the big deal unless we dont replace him which we would be able to do a number of ways
     
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  19. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    England
    No doubt wilshere has the talent just not enough luck
     
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  20. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    I know I sound like a maniac, but imho we have a chance to build a super team for the next 5 seasons can't be sentimental. Also I'd upgrade the leftback if I was in charge. Gibbs has plateaud and Monreal isn't up to par BUT I don't think we'll do it. Cause you can't just up and replace players need chemistry and Monreal provides that.
     
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  21. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    How can you say Monreal is not up to par? The dude has been stellar this season.
     
  22. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    we cant attack from the left as much we ideally would be able to attack on both flanks imho we tilt too much to the right
     
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  23. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wenger seems to have a preference for a balls out attacking fullback on one side and a more conservative option on the other. He even tilts the midfield/attack to support this, most recently playing a center midfielder on the right and a wide player on the left (which is the inverse of his historical propensity).
     
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  24. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I hope that's a choice that Wenger made, because we were getting slaughtered on the counter-attack. Monreal seems to venture into the midfield and no further, which has worked well for us so far.
     
  25. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Generally speaking, the team is much more balanced defensively with Monreal than Gibbs. The Spaniard understanding with Alexis is also a big plus.
    As I said before, we may have some issues to solve, but LB is not one of them at this point.
     

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