We really do post here far too often- The Chelsea Injury Thread

I somewhat agree with you, but American doctors are more exposed to head injuries than European doctors. Yes, everyone knows and learns about treating concussions, but with any profession, its all about experience that makes you better. Between youth sports, high school sports, collegiate sports and professional sports, the opportunity to see and treat head injuries has to be exponentially higher than most cases in Europe.

Its not that European doctors don't know, its that they don't have the experience. Which if you look at it, its a good thing? Fewer head injuries.

 

Okay, got it.

Yeah, I'm sure he went through tests and I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying on the pitch medical staff.

I doubt he plays on Wednesday, but sure I can see how he got a clean bill of health.

But yeah my point has to do with players being cleared by team doctors to continue play only for him to not be okay 20 minutes later and he had to go to hospital.

 

Agree completely. I'm not sure how they fix it, but it should be in discussion.

 

Thinking more about it. Yes, the FA can make a policy of its own, but really, it needs to come down from FIFA. The consequences and effect of a policy change at that level is enormous. We're talking about changing something for the entire WORLD. Its a lot easier for the NFL to make a policy change that affects however many teams int he NFL. They reluctantly did it, too.

 

Just to clarify, I am by no means saying that European doctors are less competent in any way. Just agreeing that they perhaps do not have as much exposure to the dangers of concussions so they don't treat it as seriously. Like I said, I wasn't supposed to play for a week after a head knock and I barely displayed any concussion-like symptoms. I know I'm not a professional footballer or anything and Oscar probably underwent far more tests than I did, but it just seems ridiculous that he's already got the okay to play when I clearly saw him take a hit that was far worse than the one I experienced personally. Seems like with these sort of things it unfortunately takes something very serious to happen (such as the Seau suicide) in order for any changes to be made

 

Absolutely. The NFL is one governing body. FIFA oversees hundreds.

A free substitution. The other team losing a player for a set amount of minutes. Something so that players can be assessed right there. A free substitution makes the most sense, but you have to then have independent doctors doing the assessment because teams will likely try to get around it by having players feign a head injury.

 

I like those ideas, but there's no way that will ever happen. Maybe having a doctor in the booth that can view replays and relay information to the referee? Honestly, everyone BUT the physios and referee saw how bad Oscar was.

The evidence of either not getting the gravity of the injury or trying to cover it up was when our second physio ran out with Eva and immediately gave the thumbs up to Oliver (insinuating that Oscar was ok) within seconds.

 

I never said it wasn't a serious issue, the problem is that the financial pressure is real. I am not an idiot, I know they are old players but it isn't like the older players are suing for getting lung cancer (if any did) going on the comment that they thought smoking was good for you.
The difference is that people over here take their kids to the hospital if the ball hits them in the head, at minimal speed, I know I have experienced this quite a large number of times. They have taken them there and the kid has literally no symptoms and yet they are recommended a week of rest, I call hospital/doctor BS as they just want a repeat visit to make more money.

Now the issue about more head injuries, I can't see why there would be a massive amount more in the US then the UK/Europe, per doctor that is. Seeing as we have sports that have contact like the US do. Most of you guys are talking about Europe as it is one thing governed and run like the US, Europe is vastly different, country to country, just saying.

Having said that, I do think Oscar should have been removed from play straight away as it looked awful. The guys talking about the changes, I really do hope there is a change as they haven't really pushed it too much, but I guess when you have and organisation like the NFL they have a change to implement in 30? teams, that are in the NFL. The FA would have to implement a change in over 100 clubs and then if you do that for FIFA, it's almost 1000 if you look at just the pro teams in the FIFA world

 

We will have to agree to disagree. I never insinuated you were an idiot. They are suing them for loss of memory and motor function among other things. While not lung cancer, that's pretty bad. Back then they didn't understand the issue. That's the problem. Yesterday he was sent to the hospital 20 minutes after it happened by someone. On top of that he was allowed to carry on after it happened. That is the issue. Not what some parents in the US do with their children. The situation yesterday was handled wrong. That's the problem. That's the point. That's also why we're having the discussion.

No one is wrong here.

 

I understand what you're saying and I agree, it does need to be looked at in a lot more detail, I have added to my last post as I needed to address what my thoughts on the Oscar situation itself was and not just in general.

 

I said it before somewhere else, but our physios just didn't see the aftermath immediately after his collision. By the time they got there, he was sitting up and talking. After seeing the replay, definitely should have been taken off. I think when Chelsea did finally see the replay, they took him out and sent him to the hospital.

Without getting that close up look at his initial symptoms, I really don't think they did anything horribly wrong based on the info they had at the time. I don't they they were negligent.

 

Completely agree. This isn't an easy thing to fix. Shit, I don't even have a solution. But FIFA has a billion dollar surplus. Perhaps they can put some of that to good use and train on field doctors how yo quickly assess for one. The issue for me isn't European doctors, it's the medical teams forced to make quick decisions because of the time crunch.

 

Its got to be video replay for injuries by a third party doctor. Any obvious loss of consciousness is a forced and free substitution? There's no good answer really.

 

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation....iego-costa-injury-update-reveals-falcao-plans

If Diego isnt ready for Saturday can someone please PLEASE teach Remy the offside rule!

 

TC out ? It was almost a guarantee that he would get hurt in the first month of the season after letting Cech go

This team needs a positive result!

 

Jose said he needs surgery and will be out for a long time.

 

Courtois hopes to be back by early December.

 

Hazard to miss 2 weeks.

 

We need to get a new "sexy" physio . . .
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/35241632
tbh I never liked Eva all that much

 

Blasphemy.

You've been warned.

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Hazard, Costa, Remy, Falcao, Oscar all out for West Brom on Wednesday. Matic was out on Sunday for being hit the head with a ball and feeling dizzy earlier in the week.

Traore up top? Would be an adventure!

 

FFS.

We need another striker in the worst way. Traore and Bamford please.

 

You are likely right, but the fact remains that we have 3 oft injured strikers. As a we need able bodies. Our experiment of Hazard up top doesn't work.