We really do post here far too often- The Chelsea Injury Thread

Apparently just a bruised toe as well. I think Wilmots said he'll play against Bosnia and Herzegovina on Monday though. One game better than two I suppose

 

Fabergas has a hamstring tweak. Luis has a calf problem. Bane had a bad cut on his foot, got a bloody boot, laughed, then scored the winner.

 

2 weeks min, maybe 4. I wouldn't be shocked if he's out for the season and elects for early surgery.

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/32185984

 

What surgery?

 

Hamstring apparently. Can't find the article now, but I read recently about a postponement. Maybe not anymore? Who knows.

 

3 months ago I'd be freaking out. But Remy has me believing.

 

Drogba has an ankle issue. Not sure how serious, but something to keep an eye on.

 

So, he may be even slower .....

 

Oscar has been cleared for football. Jose said he would be available on Wednesday.

 

I'm no doctor, but that sounds like a load of horseshit. No way he should be playing any more this season after what I saw.

 

As you said, you are no doctor. Oscar underwent a number of scans and has been cleared by professionals. Whats the problem in that? Maybe it wasn't as bad as it looked. If there was even a small doubt, he wouldn't be playing.

 

Americans will have a better understanding of this because of football. I played it growing up. I watch college football. A lot of us do, but there is a massive gap in knowledge in the UK compared to the US.

 

Correct me if im wrong but in the nfl, if a player comes off the field with a suspected concussion, they automatically miss the next game?

Something similar should be introduced.

 

Don't know to be fair, but they are held out if there is even suspicion of a concussion.

 

Two years ago I suffered a clash of heads going for the ball during a game with my club side. Didn't get knocked out or anything, just some whiplash and a few seconds of being dazed. Went to the hospital afterwards just as a precaution, nothing showed up on the MRI, and I still had to stay out for a week. Oscar's clash with Ospina looked ten times worse, and he's still cleared for the game Wednesday? Perhaps it is just a little more caution on American doctors' ends due to the NFL and American football injuries in general as Blueallthru said above, but I'm shocked Oscar isn't out for at least a single week

 

Currently questioning our medical staffs decisions.. Costa was rushed back and look what happened. Oscar is still a kid, there is no legitimate reason for rushing him back like that.

 

It's more complicated than that IMO.

Re: Oscar
There is such a gap in knowledge in Europe really, on concussions in football. As Americans we're miles ahead in understanding them because of American football and the lawsuits from for players. I genuinely believe physio's just don't understand and know when a player is concussed. On top of that, there was so much happening that the medical staff didn't get out there right away. There was the play on the pitch that had to end before Ospina stood to see he was in a bad place. He then comes to slightly by the time the staff gets out there, so there it just looks like he took a bad knock. We have the benefit of seeing it on replay over and over and over. The medical staff doesn't as they are on the bench.

That's why there has to be someone else with a video monitor that review it instantly. Looking at it on replay, it's actually quite disturbing to see his state initially. His hands are bent in awkward positions. His eyes are rolled back. And he was shaking.

There is such a gap in understanding. FIFA owes it to the players to put something in place. On top of that, the players have poor understanding of the issue to. There is a lot that has to change.

Re: Costa
I don't know. Part of me thinks that he was rushed and I knew this would happen. Same thing happened in the CL Final last year. The other part is I just don't think anyone has a really good handle on his hammy, including him.

But our medical staff is second to none. It's just that we've seen this over and over because we watch Chelsea play weekly. This stuff happens all the time.

 

It isn't a gap in the knowledge, the reason is simple. Americans are so paranoid about being sued all the time that they have to put so many more precautions over things like concussion. Whilst it is a serious issue it isn't taken so far into it with the rest of the world as they know they won't be sued by a player as the player accepts injuries etc as part of playing a sport in which collisions can happen. They will probably assess and monitor Oscar over the next X amount of days as the effect isn't always instant. I say that people in the US are paranoid because I have spent quiet a while here and the difference is stark, I had a summer camp where a girl got hit by a ball in the nose which caused a nose bleed, the first thing her mother said when we phoned her about the incident was "does she have concussion" not "is she ok" or something along those lines.

Did the NFL players really not think they would have after effect from running head first into other guys that are basically brick walls?

 

Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean it isn't a serious issue. It is in the forefront of American minds. Taylor Twellman was forced into retirement. It's easy to say things like football players are dumb if they didn't think it would happen. These players played in the 60's and 70's when no one knew smoking was bad for them. And the suing part is irrelevant too because without it, this may never had come up to begin with.

The gap exists. Yesterday was proof. It isn't right or it isn't wrong. But something needs to be done to protect the players. Because they know the risks doesn't mean that there shouldn't be protection from it.

 

The lawsuits in the NFL are from former players. Not current players. Junior Seau killed himself and studies after the fact showed he suffered from serious head trauma. You may think as a society we are p*ssies but it doesn't change that it isn't a major issue. It shouldn't require a player to be completely unconscious for it to be thought about.

And as an American, the reason the NFL and American football is getting it figured out is because they've handled them wrong for years.

 

I don't understand why everyone is assuming European doctors are less educated? Our coaching staff made a mistake in allowing Oscar to continue but he did go to the hospital and underwent a ton of scans.

Now, no doctor is perfect but I assume the guys our players are going to are well-established in their fields and know what they are doing. It is not as if they took an opinion from the guy on the side of the street selling magic ointments.

 

It isn't that they aren't educated, but they don't have a good understanding of the issue.

Look at it this way. Oscar gets a knock. He's assessed and he continues on and plays. Fine, all is well. Now say he's assessed and he aggravates the issue because he stayed on. We'd be mad and they didn't do their job. I'm not calling for anyone's job. Not at all.

But Oscar was subbed off at halftime and sent to the hospital. He even spent the night in the hospital. Thst is the issue. I'm not a doctor and I don't claim to know what the hell is going on. But if after 20 minutes of him running around after the fact they thought he was bad enough to send to the hospital then why not initially. It's no different than the German at the World Cup. That's the lack of understanding. They need to assess it right away.

My guess is yesterday someone from the staff saw a video of it or someone else did and realized how bad it actually was.

 

One of the biggest hurdles in getting a real policy in place for head injuries in soccer is the continuous play. There just isn't enough time to properly assess an injury. The pressure put on the physios to quickly fix or sub a player is immense. As with all potential policy changes in soccer, there's very little that can be done that won't dramatically alter the game. Its going to take something horrible happening to finally get real change. That's unfortunate.

 

I agree our medical staff was wrong, not because they didn't know what they were doing, but because they did not perform enough checks on him with that serious an incident. I am talking about the latter part where the hospital doc gave him a clean chit. I assume he underwent some rigorous tests there.

Also, he did not spend the night at the hospital. Jose said he went back home. So I don't think it was as serious as people are making it out to be.

Here is the quote:

Jose: 'Oscar left the hospital and stayed at home last night. He should be here today. Everybody will travel to Leicester