Pre/PBP/Post: Houston Dynamo v. Sporting Kansas City, Saturday, April 25

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by newtex, Apr 20, 2015.

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Result?

Poll closed Apr 25, 2015.
  1. Dynamo win

    8 vote(s)
    61.5%
  2. Dynamo tie

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%
  3. Dynamo lose

    2 vote(s)
    15.4%
  4. Someone, anyone, scores. (Hey, it worked against Montreal!)

    2 vote(s)
    15.4%
  1. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't they always though?
     
  2. DynamoManiac

    DynamoManiac Member+

    Jan 27, 2014
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Dude Just made a beautiful move and is sitting on a hat trick and we're up two. I had no problem with him going for goal there. Who knew he'd make a bad back pass & ref would make a terrible call.
     
  3. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A pass to Beasley and a finish and the game is killed right there. It just wasn't the best play and those decisions are part of why we gave points away
     
  4. DynamoManiac

    DynamoManiac Member+

    Jan 27, 2014
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    We're up two well into the 2nd half. Who says Beasley actually finishes (haven't seen him do it yet)? Barnes is clearly feeling it, he curls that one into the back of the net and he's forever a Dynamo cult hero.

    I've seen forwards shoot from worse spots than that. Without the collapse that followed, this wouldn't even be a talking point. Nobody would remember it.
     
  5. brahmafutbol

    brahmafutbol Member+

    Jan 29, 2006
    East Bernard, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I liked the fight we showed after the red, not collapsing like they did after the red against Dallas last year. And I really liked the way they started the second half, they completely dominated SKC most of the second half.
    But what bothered me, after Raul's goal, we never kept possession. Maybe it was because we were down a man, but we never tried to keep the ball, we just kept clearing it down field. I'm not sure there was ever a completed pass to another Dynamo player after that goal. It's hard to hold on that long when you don't try to control the ball.
     
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  6. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Partially agree but we had a few other chances in the second half where we missed passes to wide open players. That a little thing that was obvious even at the time that Barnes went for goal.

    If we are up 2 in stoppage time them I am fine with the shot for a hat trick. But at that time the right call is pass for an open 1v1 on the keeper
     
  7. Hydro

    Hydro Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Houstown
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is two weeks in a row i get it. Too bad i cant insert that "auto bombo" jpg right now.

    Yeah, didnt get the number of goals right.
     
  8. Heft

    Heft BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    This match highlights one of my biggest issues with pro soccer, in that a referee can insert himself in the match and decide the outcome.

    If anybody is watching the Arsenal v Chelsea match right now, it is reminiscent of last night's performance by match officials, and shows that the problem is universal.
     
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  9. DynamoManiac

    DynamoManiac Member+

    Jan 27, 2014
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Bingo. My frustration whenever somebody says "MLS refs suck" is the pretending that this doesn't happen in every league in the world. As I've said before, I've lived in England, Belgium, France, Korea, Singapore, Thailand. The only universal commonality across the football leagues in all of those countries is people complaining about the refs and how they are the worst in the world.
     
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  10. DynamoManiac

    DynamoManiac Member+

    Jan 27, 2014
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Looking back at my talking points from last night's game. Top two have been discussed plenty so far:

    1) The Barnes back pass

    2) The penalty/red card

    3) Ball movement - first 25 minutes or so of the match was pretty dire. Dynamo couldn't possess in the face of SKC's pressing and there was a lot of long ball. Then, all of the sudden, something clicked and the ball started moving around quickly. A lot of beautiful one touch passing like we saw against DC United. Good movement off the ball as well and suddenly SKC's pressing was turned to our advantage as we knifed through them. 2-1 at half could easily have been more. Between this match and the last match, feels like team is finally starting to adjust to what Coyle wants them to do.

    4) Alex Lopez - wasn't as good as against DC, but did have some nice passes. Defensively he was a huge liability, though. Could see why Dom never played him. Should have been taken out much sooner than he was.
     
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  11. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By the way, as crappy as the end was, MLS needs more games like last night. Exciting (sometimes for the wrong reasons) and the crowd was into it.
     
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  12. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the red will most certainly be over turned right? no way MLS can allow that right? RIGHT??

    one of the worst reffed games i've seen. seriously. even with out the red card, it was abysmal.

    I knew the game was gonna be a foul fest but damn, it didn't have to be a joke.

    congrats on the gift Missouri, don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

    PS

    when was the last time we've seen 8 goals? bonkers

    PSS

    Can we petition for a ban on back passes?
     
  13. Beavis Stiffler

    Beavis Stiffler Member+

    May 14, 2011
    Naranja With Attitude. Straight Outta Houston.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    Speaking of the supporters and fans, have anyone seen or read any comments from twitter and facebook about last night's game. Wow, talk about overreaction. Some are good points, the other posts are downright hilarious and stupid.

    Well at least they get free Raising Cane's chicken as a consolation prize.:whistling:
     
  14. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Juego View:

    To me conceding four at home is abysmal.

    I don't get Garrido on the bench and suspect that that and conceding four are related.

    Pen/Red Card: I had same view angle as Stodt though much much further away. My thought was handball when I saw it. Replay of course leads me to different conclusion -- but I guess I understand how Stodt got that wrong.

    Stodt: Never very good, horrible last night. Inconsistent. Baffling as in Bruin's yellow. SKC fouls every time in midfield to break the flow and Stodt does nothing. This -- the persistent fouling through overly-physical play in midfield is the biggest problem MLS has and it seems little progress is being made. No team takes advantage of this MLS weakness more than SKC. No ref is worse at it than Stodt (though they are all bad).

    I read this morning that Barnes laments the poor quality of his backpass. No Sir. The problem was you ever turning backwards from midfield against a high-pressing team. Playing backwards against SKC is throwing chum in the water. Get the ball downfield and play in their half. Even at the cost of possession. Their game is built on winning the ball high up the field.

    On this possession versus territory thing -- our first goal game from making the right decision. Taylor lumped into the corner for Bruin and SKC to fight over. SKC knocks into touch. Throw-in. Poor clearance. Barnes. Goal.

    Yeah -- Barnes should have passed to Beasley. That was the right play.

    I don't get the thinking of "forwards should be selfish -- its ok if they shoot -- we want someone to be aggressive." etc. I want players to shoot when they should shoot, and pass when they should pass. Make the right play. In any game-state, on a 3 v 2 the ball carrier should pass if the def steps towards him and leaves another open. Fundamental.
     
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  15. Soccergodlss

    Soccergodlss Member+

    Jun 21, 2004
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Kaiserslautern
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll disagree and say it wasn't the right play in that situation. I'm of the philosophy that you need to reward teammates when they make the right runs or else they won't continue to do it. Then you'll be stuck with one guy up top and nobody moving off the ball for him. Now that one play isn't the reason we lost the game, but its part of the problem. Interestingly enough, the play just previous to that Davis was screaming at Barnes for not switching the field and you could tell he was double thinking his decision. Then he doesn't see Beasley and gets screamed at again from another veteran. I think both those plays may have culminated in Barnes's psyche during the turnover. Of course I could be wrong in how I read it, but I knew he was gonna try that crap before he even did it.
     
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  16. nbrooks503

    nbrooks503 Previously Held @Dynamo Hostage From 2008-2019

    Jun 1, 2008
    Disgruntled Former STH - Fairweather Bandwaggoner
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. Heft

    Heft BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Barnes was having such a beautiful game, I could not believe it when he Carrasco'ed the back pass.
     
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  18. Heft

    Heft BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    I need to go to Menchies and get my free stuff.
     
  19. TX Bill

    TX Bill Member+

    Apr 3, 2006
    Sugar Land TX
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you want good, hilarious, and stupid all at once....

    @GOT_TXBill
     
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  20. TX Bill

    TX Bill Member+

    Apr 3, 2006
    Sugar Land TX
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More than a few observations (sorry if this is long winded):

    1) The officiating. Every time I think I've seen the worst refereed MLS match, I get proven wrong AGAIN. Kevin Stott's performance last night wasn't fit to referee an HFA Premier League match much less an MLS match. In the first three minutes - Beasley fouled...no call, Zuzi fouled (roughly the same foul)...called, Sarkodie fouled...no call...Nemeth goal. Consistent much? Nope.

    2) Credit to Dom Dwyer. Didn't say boo last night. Nemeth on the other hand was whining for every call and in the second half, Stott swallowed his whistle when he could have/should have booked Nemeth for diving in our box. Thankfully Dwyer didn't convert any of his chances or SKC would have been out of sight.

    3) Six minutes of stoppage time? Three of those minutes (as someone rightfully said earlier) was Taylor taking his time in leaving the pitch after the red card.

    4) Speaking of the red card and penalty, nothing can be done about the penalty but MLS damn well better overturn that red card. If they don't, then basically they've destroyed any integrity remaining at the MLS Disciplinary Committee. Joke of a call and Stott's refusal to consult his linesman on that side just incensed me to no end.

    5) Speaking of poor officiating, the "foul" that was called on SKC against Davis (which lead to our freekick and Raul's goal) was an absolute joke. If I'm an SKC supporter, I'm going nuts after that call. Bad bad call.

    6) Credit Feilhaber with the strike to tie it up. Yeah yeah, should have closed him down, should have never have been six minutes...whatever you want to say, but that was one hell of a goal to cap that match off.

    7) Still liking Coyle's substitution patterns.

    8) As for the players...too much to be said that frankly, I don't want to waste your time. Was happy with Bruin, Sturgis, and Lopez from an offensive point of view. Barnes did well on his goals but killed us with the sloppy backpass that they converted.

    9) Was exhausted after that match but honestly, that felt like a loss more than any Dynamo match that we've drawn in a long long time. Never should have drawn it but woulda coulda shoulda. Get it fixed.
     
  21. TX Bill

    TX Bill Member+

    Apr 3, 2006
    Sugar Land TX
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I was close...








    ...not really.
     
  22. DynamoManiac

    DynamoManiac Member+

    Jan 27, 2014
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    I don't read Facebook comments. Found it was better for my health not to do so. Most of the commenters have no clue what they are talking about.
     
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  23. Beavis Stiffler

    Beavis Stiffler Member+

    May 14, 2011
    Naranja With Attitude. Straight Outta Houston.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
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  24. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    I'd take both :ninja:
     
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  25. xilitla1972

    xilitla1972 Member

    Nov 15, 2010
    Austin
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    My quick $0.02: I love saying MLS refs suck, because it just makes it feel more poignant (if only in my head). I know it's relatively untrue. And also in the f**ked up recesses of my brain, I'd like to believe Don Garber is trolling thru forums and comment sections and he sees my truly inspired bit of gospel and says to himself "Now, there is a man who knows a thing or two." I sleep better at night believing these things. Don't take away the magic.

    Can we agree that CONCACAF'ed is a thing, though?
     
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