Toulon Tournament 2015

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Blue Lou, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. Blue Lou

    Blue Lou Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    May-June 2015

    The participants are:
    • China
    • Costa Rica
    • England
    • France
    • Netherlands
    • Ivory Coast
    • Mexico
    • Morocco
    • Qatar
    • United States
    Two groups of five will be decided at a later date.
    Group winners proceed to final
    Group runners-up proceed to third place playoff

    Matches are 80 minutes long (2 x 40 mins).
     
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  3. USAMEX10

    USAMEX10 Member+

    Sep 24, 2010
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    Chicago Fire
    This is a great test for the u21s... Hope they bring there best possible squad. It's usually televised too which is nice. See how will we're vs the top teams. If US get all their best players I think we can probably get too at least the semi-finals
     
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  4. Blue Lou

    Blue Lou Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    You could take Neuer, Messi and Ronaldo and still wouldn't reach the semi-finals - there aren't any. ;)
     
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  5. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    What birth years compete in this tournament?
     
  6. USAMEX10

    USAMEX10 Member+

    Sep 24, 2010
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    Chicago Fire
    U21s
     
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  7. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    Looking at the wikipedia page with the rosters from previous editions, I think its 94's and younger for this edition.
     
  8. USAMEX10

    USAMEX10 Member+

    Sep 24, 2010
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    If true I still think US has good enough 94's and under too have a good tournament if current u20s are called.

    Excited for this tournament to start so I can watch
     
  9. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    It seems like its just 94's and younger, but we can't really use many 95's and 96's since they'll be at the U-20 WC. That makes this mostly a roster of 94's and the players who didn't end up making the U-20 team, unless I'm understanding the eligibility rules incorrectly for this tournament.

    Rough guess:

    GK: Alex Bono, Charlie Horton
    RB: Marlon Hairston, Tyler Turner
    CB: Brandon Vincent, Michael Amick, Tommy Redding
    LB: Dillon Serna
    DM/CM: Marc Pelosi, Alejandro Guido, Matt Dunn, Lynden Gooch
    AM/Wing: Alonso Hernandez, Duane Holmes, Collin Martin, Joel Sonora
    CF: Jordan Morris, Mario Rodriguez, Romain Gall, Amando Moreno

    4-4-2:

    GK: Alex Bono
    RB: Marlon Hairston
    CB: Brandon Vincent
    CB: Tommy Redding
    LB: Dillon Serna
    DM: Marc Pelosi(C)
    DM: Alejandro Guido
    RM: Duane Holmes
    LM: Romain Gall
    SS: Amando Moreno
    CF: Jordan Morris
     
  10. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    They are pretty much at the same time, so if it really is just 94's and younger, its probably 94's and U-20's that don't make the U-20 WC team. I was interested in seeing what a roster would look like, so I compiled one above. Doesn't look good. We don't have CB's and lack attacking talent.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    There's definitely a pool to draw from, albeit not exactly our "best" at that age level.

    I think we might dig deeper into our pool down to the U18s. Why not bring in Mukwelle Akale, Sebastian Saucedo, Coy Craft, and company instead of the Matt Dunn's of the world? [Nothing against Matt Dunn].

    Also, there are more NCAA players of interest than just Jordan Morris. Ramos has talked about he was impressed with some of the central midfielders in the NCAAs that are just outside of the pool at the moment. Guys like Arun Basuljevic, Chris Lema, Jake Rozhansky, Adam Najem, Corey Baird, etc. that are in my view worth calling up instead of the "Matt Dunn's of the world." Oh................I'd still be calling up Roldan for the midfield from MLS as well.

    There are also some foreign-based players out there like Luis Felipe and Herbert Robinson that still intrigue me, because I have no idea how good they are. No clue. [People go back and forth about Herbert's eligibility. I don't think we know.] There are probably more Mexico-based players that will continue to come out of the woodwork.
     
  12. ussoccer97531

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    Oct 12, 2012
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    I agree, I just think we are going to be pretty bad in this tournament since I imagine a number of teams competing aren't also competing in the U-20 WC. Our '94 age group is also right now one of our weaker birth years compared to 93's, 95's, 96's, etc.
     
  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Shrug. So what?

    I know you're on the same page as me on this, but the idea here isn't to win meaningless youth competitions. If the players that make the U20WC squad aren't available for this Toulon tournament, than this is an opportunity to keep another set of players involved in USYNT programs.
     
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  14. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
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    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But the U-21's and the U-23's are exactly the same squad right?

    I mean they are using the Euro U-21 meaning right? Which is the same as our U-23's?
     
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  15. Placid Casual

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  16. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    Good catch. Looking at the trend in recent years, it looked like the oldest age eligible went up by one year each edition.

    So with 93's eligible:

    GK: Cody Cropper, Alex Bono
    RB: Ashton Goetz, Marlon Hairston
    CB: Shane O'Neill, Walker Zimmerman, Will Packwood, AJ Cochran
    LB: Dillon Serna, Eric Miller
    DM/CM: Marc Pelosi, Caleb Stanko, Fatai Alashe, Matt Polster, Alejandro Guido
    AM/Wing: Jerome Kiessewetter, Jose Villarreal, Jesus Vazquez
    CF: Khiry Shelton, Jordan Morris

    GK: Cody Cropper
    RB: Ashton Goetz
    CB: Shane O'Neill
    CB: Walker Zimmerman
    LB: Dillon Serna
    DM: Caleb Stanko(C)
    DM: Marc Pelosi
    RM: Jerome Kiessewetter
    LM: Jose Villarreal
    SS: Jesus Vazquez
    CF: Khiry Shelton
     
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  17. Blue Lou

    Blue Lou Member

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  18. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    That's quite the first two match ups. France is absolutely loaded in some of these ages and even if they didn't bring their best of that age group (Pogba, Varane, Digne, Kondogbia, Zouma, Fekir, Laporte), they'll still bring a very talented team.
     
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  19. USAMEX10

    USAMEX10 Member+

    Sep 24, 2010
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    Non Fifa date right? Will be a great test to see how we match up with Costa Rica, Netherlands, France. I think without are best players available best US can get is probably third in group
     
  20. USAMEX10

    USAMEX10 Member+

    Sep 24, 2010
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    GK: Cody Cropper
    RB: Deandre Yedlin
    CB: Shane O'Neill
    CB: Will Packwood
    LB: Eric Miller
    DM: Matt Polster
    DC: Ale Guido
    RM: Dillon Serna
    LM: Jose Villarreal
    SS: Jesus Vasquez
    CF: Khiry Shelton

    Morris off the bench

    Looks like a decent team for all things considered
     
  21. CG

    CG Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    I'm guessing matches on bein sports.
     
  22. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    More than likely. They did broadcast the last two editions.
     
  23. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Non-fifa date. Its going to be hard to get MLS starters I suspect.............................

    When are we expecting Jordan Morris to actually go to class!? :) This might be in the middle of finals at Stanford.
     
  24. bajansoccer

    bajansoccer Member

    Aug 28, 2011
    Polster over trapp, Caldwell? I would even put Acosta at DM before polster
     
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  25. bajansoccer

    bajansoccer Member

    Aug 28, 2011
    We are gonna get annihilated in that tournament.
     

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