Neymar will surpass Pele?

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  1. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
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    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Yeah games against the military team and things of that nature
     
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  2. greatstriker11

    greatstriker11 Member+

    Apr 19, 2013
    london
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    Rep 1000 times over!
     
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  3. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
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    You're just hating on neymidia now. What does he have to do to please you? Because I guarantee if he wins in Russia then beats Pele record, gers player of the year... you would still say something like... doesn't count, weak era
     
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  4. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    #354 JamesBH11, Mar 26, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2015
    I love Neymar!
    I was the one who fought for Neymar against Bale (in liga) with others
    I was teh one who bet Neymar would win WC14 GOldenball (over Messi and CR7) ...

    However to beat Pele's record? it WON'T HAPPEN sorry

    For your info:
    Pele scored 59goals/60games already ( Neymar already LOST by 17goals )

    Pele held too many "unbreakable Records" not ONLY that 77goals
     
  5. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
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    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Show me that math...
     
  6. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
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    I thought you weren't speculating things. ;)
     
  7. greatstriker11

    greatstriker11 Member+

    Apr 19, 2013
    london
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    Parreira subbed Rai in the last match of group stage because he felt the midfield needed more pace and Rai was a bit to slow. I remember this was discussed by pundits and reporters during the WC94

    Why else do you think he was benched for the rest of the tournament. He wasn't injured or sick. His pace held up the midfield. Parreira needed a midfield who could feed Romario up front, but Rai was not delivering it.

    I am not saying Rai wasn't good in the group stages, but he was doing his Sao Paolo performance either. Good captain, but a bit to slow like a snail/turle in the middle.

    Dunga was also slow, but at least Dunga made some long passes (including assists vs Cameroon) and defended harder then Rai. Hence, why the captaincy was turned over to Dunga and Rai benched.
     
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  8. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
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    Brazil
    This has already been discussed ! Are you going back to 92 because Neymar scored today ? 43 and counting ... :whistling:
     
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  9. greatstriker11

    greatstriker11 Member+

    Apr 19, 2013
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    Not true Guigs

    Romario carried the burden of pressure on NT94. This is well known and reported in the media. In fact we had this discussion already in Ro-Ro thread and as I remember it was confirmed by many of your compatriots, including @celito and @Bruford and @Lucas...

    But I do agree with the rest here.
     
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  10. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
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    He was subbed for a defender, not because of pace.

    Same way juninho Paulista was subbed for a defender in 2002.

    They tied Sweden parreira didn't like how many opportunities they gave away
     
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  11. greatstriker11

    greatstriker11 Member+

    Apr 19, 2013
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    :D:D:D:D:D!!!!

    @Pipiolo
     
  12. greatstriker11

    greatstriker11 Member+

    Apr 19, 2013
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    But also how the ball wasn't delivered to the two main strikers up front
     
  13. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    At age 23 is what @Guigs meant.
     
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  14. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    yes but thanks to the fact that Brazil did produce a Fenomeno R9 at time (Romario's) so oranges to apples
    So if Neymar would be born early to be in same era with Romario Ronaldo Rivaldo Roanldinho? Neymar will be ON BENCH

    Whoelse could replace Neymar now?
     
  15. greatstriker11

    greatstriker11 Member+

    Apr 19, 2013
    london
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    You love Neymar but you love Pele more

    You love Rivaldo but you love Zidane more

    You love Romario but you love Ronaldo more

    And your greatest unrequited love is Pele.

    Lets be honest. All those unnecessary maths and statistics you are overly relying upon is a show off, a bluff and a decoy to look as if you are objective. Any one with the time of day and devotion can spend hours on the net acquiring stats/data/interviews to make any player they live/love look better then the rest.

    Your conclusions are based on limited biased data and you call it FACT.

    In the end, its all OPINION:D
     
  16. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    who cares what I love or what you hate

    FACT SAID (not opinion but data and surveys of STATS)
    even you hates Ronaldo you can never make Neymar betetr than him
    even say (Badabing) loves Messi, he coudl never make Messi any closer to pele;s pedestal

    So NOTHING to do with love or hatrez ... but FACT remains
     
  17. greatstriker11

    greatstriker11 Member+

    Apr 19, 2013
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    Why didn't you respond to the rest of the post?

    Cherry picking the bit of the post that is not the main message wont make what I said invalid

    FACT said, even with all your stats and data and long lists of endorsements, none are factual evidence to draw conclusions.

    Hence why I said, while you dismiss others as opinionated, you yourself turns out to be the biggest charlatan on this forum
     
  18. giles varley

    giles varley Member+

    Oct 8, 2013
    nottingham uk
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    Leeds United AFC
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    Its not even fair to compare neymar to pele in terms of where they rank in a list of brazilian greats.. But how do you know what neymar may achieve with the selecao ? .. Give the man a chance . He may become a legend and make that top 20 list of yours yet ..
     
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  19. greatstriker11

    greatstriker11 Member+

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    You mean like Ronaldo sat on "bench" in 1994?

    :D
     
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  20. greatstriker11

    greatstriker11 Member+

    Apr 19, 2013
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    He knows because he's got these magic mathematics formulas in which he can predict the future of Neymar performance

    Input is output!

    But beware of James before he dismiss you as SPECULATOR

    :p
     
  21. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    yes R9 was the 2nd YOUNGEST ever teen (besides Pele) was SELECTED to be at WC for Brazil.
    Neymar? was NOT even mentioned at WC2010
     
  22. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    so where were you all these times? I calculated and using Math + stats + historically data

    Go back to #334 and #341 ...post OK?

    I NEVER speculated like these guys ...
     
  23. greatstriker11

    greatstriker11 Member+

    Apr 19, 2013
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    R0naldo sat on the bench at age 17, while Pele at age 17, already scored clutch goals for Brazil at age 17 to win WC

    So there is no comparison between Ronaldo and Pele. Never was. Only R9 die hard fans like you are pushing it!

    Neymar since age 19 has been the main key player for Brazil.

    Ronaldo never was the main key player for Brazil since Selecao had so many others like Rivaldo to share the burden.
     
  24. greatstriker11

    greatstriker11 Member+

    Apr 19, 2013
    london
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    SPECULATOR

    FACT said

    FACT

    IGNORANT

    FOR you INFo

    FANBOY......OK?

    These are the words you keep on using in your responds over and over again

    When are you going to give some descriptive insights like the rest of us without getting angry?:whistling:
     
  25. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    if R9 was no comparable to Pele then WHO IS NEYMAR?
     

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