Algarve Cup 2015

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  1. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #376 BlueCrimson, Mar 9, 2015
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    Ugh. I'm kind of glad it wasn't on TV, because..... ugh.

    And surprise, surprise. Both of Iceland's 2nd half yellows were on takedowns of Lloyd. Looks like they wanted to finish the job started 2 years ago.
     
  2. EbaJones

    EbaJones Member

    Sep 23, 2009
    Club:
    FFC Frankfurt
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same thing I heard...phrase "Not good enough".
     
  3. ForeverLOST108

    ForeverLOST108 Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Orlando
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Granted it wasn't broadcast so we can't accurately comment on the game.. but it's very apparent that the US continues to have a scoring problem. Worrying.
     
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  4. skybolt

    skybolt Member

    Dec 16, 2011
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Looks like all the nagging injuries have put her behind the 8-ball a bit with respect to the rest of the team. Heck, even Alex Morgan hasn't looked the same early this season after coming off of injury. In the last 4 years we've seen 5 different versions of Alex: In 2011 it was this kid who was subbed in late in matches to just go for goal in critical situations. The 2012 version saw her round out into one of the most efficient strikers and playmakers in the game. In 2013 we got the ready to rumble version where she wanted to fight anyone that laid a hand on her. In 2014 she was injury prone, and now in 2015 (after all her injuries) she's become very tentative. I'm actually glad that she received a yellow card today, which tells me that perhaps the 2013 version is back, which I'd take at this point! :)
     
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  5. law10

    law10 Member+

    Dec 26, 2007
    On successful teams when someone is off, others pick up the slack.

    Women's soccer is finally reaching the any given Sunday point. If you want to take out the top couple of teams in a World Cup elimination game, it's possible but they have to be flat and you have to pack a punch. Other than that, there's a logjam of teams who can either show up and sail or pack out early depending on the wind around the net.
     
  6. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's hard to read much of anything into the Iceland game. I see O'Hara, Van Hollebeke, O'Reilly, Chalupny, Heath, and Wambach in the starting lineup, all appearing as possible non-starters in Ellis' scheme of things. And Rampone, Krieger, Rapinoe, and Johnston don't play at all (along with Dunn). It has the looks of a throw-away game chance to put in some players who haven't had a lot of playing time -- which is exactly what a lot of posters on BS have called for in games like this.

    Although not scoring is a concern.
     
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  7. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
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  8. Ads13

    Ads13 Member

    Aug 10, 2008
    Iceland's coach isn't wrong. And yes, Jill, his team is at the bottom of the group; your team couldn't beat them though.
     
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  9. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Once upon a time as part of a project I didn't care about, I played Ether in the background made a quick presentation and walked away with the song still playing.

    That was before Nas joined Def Jam...:(
     
  10. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    I really don't get articles like this one. The USWNT was playing it's 3rd match in 6 days, didn't need to win, and gave some fringe players an opportunity to start while resting the normal starters who have to play again in 2 days. Who cares that they tied and didn't score a goal? That's not what this game about. How about telling us how the fill in players did? Did O'Hara do anything to hurt/improve her chance of making the team? How did Chalupny do in the MF? How did BVH hold up, will she be a serviceable backup for the WWC or not?

    :laugh::ROFLMAO::laugh: Now I get it, this must be an Onion style post. :whistling:
     
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  11. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
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    Well I get it. The problem from what Ive seen posted has nothing to do with who played. Personally Im glad they rested some players and felt they could rest players. The problem is regardless of who is out there the philosophy of this team just sucks. Whether it's the first 10 or the last 10 on the roster, they should be able to move the ball on the ground against pressure and create scoring chances. If they cant do that Id rather spend 90 minutes watching them try and fail than endless hail marys. And if I ever came across the Iceland coach Id buy him a beer.
     
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  12. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    No, man, you really don't get it. Read the article... see the bit I quoted. The author does not have a problem at all with how the team played the first 2 games, only the 3rd game.
     
  13. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Oh I got that part and liked ur Onion reference. My response wasnt pro article it was anti Ellis philosophy. I probably shouldnt have quoted ur response at all.
     
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  14. Semblance17

    Semblance17 Member+

    United States
    Apr 27, 2013
    Lighthouse Point, FL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed that this article left out a lot of significant issues, issues that this the roster experimentation was probably an effort to investigate. But tying and not scoring a goal is significant. That even the weakest incarnation of their lineup can be stymied by a team like Iceland for a full 90 minutes is not the message that the U.S. wants to send just before their rematch with the French team that gave them a sound thrashing last month.

    Well to say the least, all three games left a lot to be desired from the team. But in the writer's defense, of the three games, this one probably left the most to be desired.
     
  15. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
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    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    I'm just glad that no one was hurt and others saw minutes. Progress (;))
     
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  16. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
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    Seattle Sounders
     
  17. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    So with Brazil playing for 7th and Japan trying to get 9th I guess the heads will be rolling around the woso coaching circles.
     
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  18. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
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    Sep 22, 2009
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    Philadelphia Independence
    Not when every is focussed on us drawing with Iceland.
     
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  19. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
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    So we r the still the center of the woso universe...good to know.
     
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  20. Blaze20

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    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    To be fair the imbalance in the various groups explains why Brazil is playing for 7th. As for Japan they have no excuse.
    As for the us, we are in a no win situation. We did what we had to do to get to the finals but some will claim we had the easiest group so our berth is not deserving. On the other hand, we can only play who we are given and there's no saying how we would had done if we had to cope with Germany/Sweden/Brazil.
     
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  21. uncchamps2012

    uncchamps2012 Member

    Jul 9, 2011
    seriously, she was getting starts in some games when she was still in college.
     
  22. luvthegame

    luvthegame Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    Considering last years results at this event. It appears we have improved!!!!:)
     
  23. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Ha Ha well Ellis has actually managed to have compiled a worse record than Sermanni but against tougher competition. But yes, she certainly put Algarve in its place.
     
  24. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    The Japanese fans might have taken this better if Sasaki hadnt announced that they were at Algarve to win it.
     
  25. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
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    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    Maybe his definition of win was different. The problem with Japan is the last time they had a lack luster Algarve they won the world cup so no one knows what to make of this performance.
     
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