MLS Attendance Analysis 2015: Preseason

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by edwardgr, Mar 3, 2015.

  1. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Shocking.

    19784 in KC.
     
  2. Zxcv

    Zxcv Member+

    Feb 22, 2012
    The bubble has burst. Bring back the Wiz
     
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  3. nick

    nick Member+

    Nov 23, 1998
    Potomac Falls, Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RFK is a real mess. The stadium is run down. It has become difficult to drive to with all the construction going into lot 8. You have to take a detour. And the weather in DC has been awful. We have had the coldest winter here since the 1880s.

    Also when you are in RFK on these types of days it's not only cold but on the home side of the stadium you are in the shade and with the way they have access to your seats the wind is directed towards your seat. That is not a good fan experience in the early part of the year.

    Attendance will improve significantly as we move into the season. I have no doubt the dc will be one of the strongest drawing teams when we move to the new stadium.
     
  4. JoeCelt

    JoeCelt Member+

    Jul 7, 2012
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    SEA - 39,782
     
  5. RfrancisR

    RfrancisR Member+

    Aug 7, 2006
    New Orleans Diaspora
    Orlando - 62,510
    MOVE SEATTLE!
     
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  6. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I saw 2 full sections open in C-link's upper bowl. I figured it was the new expanded capacity. Will 39,782 be the number going forward?

    Last season was 38,500 right?

    The increase is slightly underwhelming, but i'm sure it's been carefully considered.
     
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  7. JoeCelt

    JoeCelt Member+

    Jul 7, 2012
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    They also closed some sections due to reconstruction being done on south-upper area above ECS
    Maybe new capacity is 40k or 39,5k ?

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    They don't spend on their team. Why should I spend on their team?

    EDIT: Personally, I think it's just the effect of strike, weather, etc. this week. But I'm kind of hoping for an attendance slump this year to force the Hunts' hand. Especially after watching the games this weekend. It's like we play in a different league.
     
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  9. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really? I don't pay close attention to Dallas but my perception of them is one of a young team on the rise. No?
     
  10. JoeCelt

    JoeCelt Member+

    Jul 7, 2012
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Week #1 - 10 games - 258,378 - 25.8k average :)
     
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  11. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Any chance of Seattle beating the attendance record again this year?
     
  12. JoeCelt

    JoeCelt Member+

    Jul 7, 2012
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Depends for how many and what games FO is planning to open full stadium.
    Last season we were just short 5k total because Portland game was scheduled right after WC Final in Brazil and last game vs LAG was scheduled at noon on Saturday during kids soccer tournaments.
     
  13. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The increase in base capacity should make it more likely, but the big games have so much variability, it's hard to know. A game could be 50k or 65k and single handedly change everything.

    Any Seattle people provide the number of expanded games this year?
     
  14. StevenPrada

    StevenPrada Member

    Jan 26, 2001
    I appreciate the other stuff you said, especially how crappy the drive to lot 8 is from Virginia, but regarding the weather this winter... only February was particularly cold, and February 1979 was colder so we don't have to go that far back to find a colder February.. Source:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-closes-coldest-since-1979-in-washington-d-c/

    I agree that the "quiet side" was colder this Saturday due to the shade, but it was in the 40s. I have my season tickets there to avoid the sun for summer daytime games. Fortunately I knew that would be the case and dressed warmly.
     
  15. kyleburkholder

    Dec 4, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    South Africa
    From a neutral Texan, FCD is so disappointing in that it's a major market team that operates like Columbus (no offense intended). Houston seems to at least be stretching (DMB and Cubo), but FCD is never even rumored to be in the hunt for major players. And nothing short-circuits hope in the hyper-competitive West like going up against Seattle, LAG, and the like and not having one of the 3 or 4 best players on the pitch.

    Maybe it is the suburban stadium curse...? Chicago and Dallas are MAJOR markets. And both are definitely outside of the financial (and therefore competitive) top-tier of MLS (the Liberace Conference of NYCFC, SEA, TFC, LAG).
     
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  16. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unannounced as of yet. Should get details in the next few weeks. The schedule this year is actually not very conducive to doing 5 like last season, unless they either choose some non-traditional opponents, or basically close out the season with all of the full stadia matches after August 1. I would personally like to see Portland, Vancouver, LA, Toronto, and Orlando.
     
  17. joehooligan0303

    joehooligan0303 Member+

    Dec 16, 2001
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was thinking that NYCFC could draw a big crowd because of the players on the team, but looking at the schedule it doesn't look like you play them in Seattle at all. Is that correct?
     
  18. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends on the capacity. I think they'll be much better than they are now, but I'm not sure they'll be one of the "strongest drawing teams" (depending on your definition) solely due to the stadium capacity.
     
  19. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are at NYCFC on 5/3
     
  20. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would point out that it still represents an increase over their first game last season :inlove:
     
  21. matbluvenger

    matbluvenger Member+

    Reno 1868
    United States
    Aug 2, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe that's the strategy for Sporting: the season is one long crescendo.
     
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  22. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I should have the numbers up tonight. The hardest part of this whole routine is always entering the data into the AAQ calculator. I had never really used vlookup in excel before but started to understand the power of it last year. I had planned on converting the calculator to use vlookup but got overwhelmed at the task. But I decided to resurrect that plan and will instead be using the Index-Match-Match function in excel, which is really what I should have been doing all along as my data is in a grid matrix already. Once i get this working my calculated data will be almost entirely auto-generated.
     
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  23. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FCD was playing SJE, one of the worst teams in the league, and that certainly isn't going to draw more casual fans.

    But I feel the same; it feels like they are onto to something in playing money ball the right way in MLS (developing young great talent and selling them to compete with much bigger budgets around the league).

    All that being said, SJE played at least even with FCD (if not a bit better even being on the road) and FCD was extremely lucky to get the win. Could be a long year if the youngins don't work out.
     
  24. aperfectring

    aperfectring Member+

    Jul 13, 2011
    Hillsboro, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Excellent news! It makes it much easier to generate reports when they are automagical! I went through a mock-up report yesterday to make sure the game scores would operate correctly when I add in Orlando and NYC games.
     
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  25. SubPsyche

    SubPsyche Member

    Jun 22, 2005
    1st week Comparable Stadiums attendance numbers.

    It's easy to get blinded by new stadium numbers but often they don't tell the real story. Companies open new stores all the time with great fanfare and therefore great sales but most financial analysts only use comparable store numbers to get a sense of the true increases. Here they are so far:

    2014 1st week 117399
    2015 1st week 114711

    The small increases for Seattle, LAG & Portland did not make up for the larger decreases for DCU & FCD.

    Five locations don't tell the full story either. To get a complete understanding of the 2015 opening round attendance numbers, all old teams will need to have their first home game completed.
     
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