2015 2nd DP Discussion

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by Rod1916, Jan 31, 2015.

  1. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ramirez as a loan in the next couple of weeks IMO.
     
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  2. SoccaJ

    SoccaJ Member

    Colorado Rapids
    Jun 25, 2007
    Firestone, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ives reporting this on his website and, interestingly, used the specific term "young DP". Isn't there a special MLS rule around DPs under a certain age?
     
  3. Couchtoast

    Couchtoast Member

    May 22, 2006
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Their cap hit is lower. Aged 21-23 only counts $200k against the cap, regardless of salary/transfer fee.
     
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  4. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Argentina and Brazil are loaded with talented players up and down their 1st and 2nd divisions. It's not unheard of to have players transfer from those 2nd divisions to some well respected leagues and clubs around the globe. I don't know if Ramirez fits into that category or not but I will keep that in mind before I pass judgment. Argentina is in the midst of a transformation and the Primera Division, for the time being, will expand to 30 clubs and Argentinos Jrs. will be back in the top flight after one season out.

    I agree 100% that is quite a leap for the tight wads that are KSE to drop $2m on Ramirez. It does make me scratch my head as it does seemingly come out of left field. I like it, though. I'm not ready to say a new leaf is being turned over but I do get a sense that change is in the air.
     
  5. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm also surprised and more so if the terms reported are true, but, for what it's worth, so best as I can tell, Ramirez has 15 Primera B appearances and 53 Primera A appearances, the latter of which included a stretch as a consistent starter.
     
  6. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its Ives, which means its probably wrong. :D
     
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  7. Couchtoast

    Couchtoast Member

    May 22, 2006
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Friends don't let friends read Soccer By Ives.
     
  8. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are we sure that's two million U.S. Dollars, and not two million Argentine Pesos? :D
     
  11. Riccardo55

    Riccardo55 Member+

    Mar 11, 2001
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does he play central mid, attacking, holding, defending, or is he more a wing???

    R
     
  12. Independiente

    Independiente Member

    Colorado Rapids
    United States
    Mar 15, 2005
    Littleton, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Based on video and other information I've read, he seems most often used as an attacking midfielder, often from the left side of the field. Seems like he would be best used as a central or wing attacking mid position in a 4-2-3-1 lineup or wing attacker in a 4-3-3.
     
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  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Been thinking about an "opening day lineup" if Ramirez really is our second DP.

    Ramirez - Torres - Brown (Sanchez?)
    Powers
    Sarvas
    Pittinari
    Harrington - Burling - O'Neill - Burch (Neeskens?)
    MacMath​

    That would be up to 7 new players in the starting lineup.
     
  14. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just need to flip Burch (lefty) and Harrington.

    Serna and Eloundou to me will always be most effective as a final 30 min sub.
     
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  15. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Stopped by for the cold water that I thought would be thrown on this by now; To recap we now have a money-ball guy to make our player moves make sense, a web presence de-bugger, AND and a second (young) DP with an ongoing search for a goal scoring third DP. It is really going to suck when I wake up from this pleasant dream. Also re. the money-ball guy, if they really are footing a $2M transfer fee on the young DP I wonder if it is to his credit i.e. showing how the money is an investment that will return when he matures a little and is sold on?
     
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  16. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I went back and forth about which alignment was better. ;)
     
  17. xingyiz

    xingyiz Member

    Mar 26, 2011
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Dom that's why I commented how interesting it would be to see Mr. Smiths Analysis break down for Ramirez just to get an idea of where they are coming from with this acquisition.
     
  18. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As skeptical as I have been about the Rapids this offseason, I honestly have to upgrade their performance from "failed offseason" to "potentially decent offseason" and the upcoming season from "utter despair" to "not entirely hopeless."
     
  19. unkiemark

    unkiemark Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Boulder
    I'm still skeptical of the details concerning Ramirez, particularly that the Rapids are going to shell out $2 million to buy him.

    And of course it's coming from someone I don't recall being engaged with the Rapids until very recently who is also stating the 'Pids are intending to sign a third DP.
     
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  20. wormhole

    wormhole Member

    Mar 25, 2009
    Westminster, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Plus it's exactly what TH said the Rapids would do - go the young DP route in pursuit of 3 DPs. :D
     
  21. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    Kizla hasn't reported on the Rapid recently, but he used to, maybe 5 or 6 years ago (maybe more?). He was the only "major" sports guy at the post who ever really did.
     
  22. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Broke my bu!!shit detector when the needle hit the stop.
     
  23. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given zero further info or leaks, I am starting to have Rapid flashbacks that all is not well/ not going to happen.
     
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  24. unkiemark

    unkiemark Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Boulder
    Kiszla's covering the ski races up in Vail, so perhaps he's too busy to be tweeting about DPs.
     
  25. COYP

    COYP Member

    Aug 5, 2010
    Denver
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If not true the Rapids have had plenty of time to set the record straight. If it was a loan all alone the Rapids are being very disingenuous. There is no way Kiazla got that info from anyone but a legit FO channel. He may have misheard but if so the Rapids should have cleared it up by now. For that reason I have to believe it is true. If not it is another embarrassment for realTions with fans
     
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