PBP: The Other MLS Teams' Paraphernalia Thread: Now Legal in Two States

Hilarious comments from the audio file:

"for a stadium surround by nothing, the parking sucks. And I don't think it would take a 300 page plan to fix that."

 

RB is just plain ruining that team. If NYCFC hadn't been such a clusterfvuk right off the bat, I think they would make RBNY irrelevant by the end of the season. The Lampard business and playing in a baseball stadium hurts them though.

I don't know what RB is doing tbh. If they wanted to sell, wouldn't you do it while Henry is still there? Now he's gone, I don't see how the club is worth more. And them trying to sign Jozy and only the allocation order holding them back is total nonsense and a lie. RB doesn't want to spend money anymore. Team will only get worse. And I like Marsch, I think he'll have a decent/good coaching career. He's in an impossible spot though. Like the fans kept yelling yesterday, you only got one year to win MLS Cup before you get fired.

 

The timeline in the website really showcases a crapfest for NYRB. They've really been an unwillful recipient of a corporate cleveland steamer.

http://www.redbullout.com/

 

What a breathtaking display of agressive ignorance, willful incompetence.

 

With Jozy and Giovinco they will have an incredible attack up north.

 

Sometimes I wonder how much of NYRBs success was Petke and how much was Henry. Yes you need a decent coach to not ruin it, but an elite player can make average coaches look great. GBS helped Warzycha reach the Open Cup final and get the SS and Eric Spoelstra managed to not screw up the Miami Heat.

Now you could argue that Petke set up a system where Henry could be successful and carry the team and it would be a valid point, but even RW was given a chance to prove he could win without GBS.

 

Fair point. Petke didn't make the team worse though, and won them their only trophy in team history. Like you said, he at least should have been given a chance this season. Plus he's a club legend, and a local guy (from Long Island). On top of that, in his first year he won the SS, and his second year he made the conference finals. It just boggles the mind how the people at the RB corporate office can be so out of touch with the fans/reality.

All that being said, I think Petke probably isn't as good as people want to believe he is. I found his tactics a bit lackluster, but he deserved a shot at a third season, no question about it.

 

I think what gets to me most about Petke being let go was that they did it for Jesse Marsch. It's not like Sir Alex was coming out of retirement and had Red Bull on his mind.

I think I might call this Ali Curtis guy "plop"

 

Marsch handled himself pretty well in the Town Hall meeting tbf. I think he won over some RBNY fans. If I had to choose right now between hiring Marsch or Petke for the Crew (SC) I'd probably go with Marsch tbh. Petke didn't deserve to be fired though and I get your point that if you fire a legend, you better have someone great come in, and they clearly didn't.

Also, the fact that Curtis said Marsch was his guy, though he tried to talk to GB, Caleb Porter, and someone else (I think Arena) first, is just lulz.

 

MLS Transfers ‏@MLSTransfers now13 seconds ago
Sources: Gilberto are in TFC's plans for the next few weeks. They have options to move him to Mexico or Europe if they need to.

 

"Need to" meaning Let's hope the new CBA bails us out and we can have more DPs.

 

I can't be the only one disgusted with this notion of more DPs for everyone when we're only using 1 of our slots.

Granting more DP slots, to me, is a giant finger in the face of the smaller, better run clubs in the league.

 

More DP's doesn't equal more success (i.e. Toronto and NY).

 

That's certainly the trend, but what it's telling us is that MLS wants teams to spend more money on better players. That puts teams like ours at a disadvantage. Yes, it hasn't worked out in their favor yet (unless you count LAG and all their Titles), but we're going to get to a tipping point. I think that tipping point is coming sooner than later when teams WILL, via the number of DP slots, be able to buy Championships.

It's like funding a racing team where everyone gets the same car (salary cap) but these exemption slots allow other teams to put turbos, big brake packages, etc on their cars while we have to make do with wider tires.

 

So the league should stay where its at right now forever? If the salary cap is increased, better players will come. If more DPs are allowed, better players will come.

 

But how many teams in the league are actually using all of their 3 DP spots? How does giving them another of something they're already not using help?

 

Yeah, and some team's don't spend all their cap money, so I guess we shouldn't increase that either.

People need to get over this whole parity thing. Some teams are bigger than others, period. I have no problem being the Southampton of MLS. Good academy that produces solid/great players and competes year in year out due to good FO management and coaching. TFC and NY spend millions and never do anything, while LA and Seattle do the same but succeed. Why? Two of those teams have competent management and two don't. Care to guess which are which?

If we want the league to improve, there will have to be a higher salary cap and/or more DPs, or even (gasp) no salary cap.

I don't want every team just spending crazy money. Just like we don't want every team using the exact same formations and tactics. There is more than one way to win.

If MLS wants to stop being Mexico's bitch in CCL, the cap or DPs or both must be increased, unless they wanna wait 20 years for our academies to really get up and running.

 

There's a big difference between increasing DP slots vs the salary cap.

The League foots the bill for the salary cap, not the teams. Whereas with the DPs, the excess salary is wholly dependent upon the team's finances if they can afford or support it. A better comparison is if the league put a cap on how much extra they could spend on DPs above the $387.5k/yr salary cap hit.

 

If an owner is unwilling to spend money, wtf are they doing owning a professional sports franchise? Should LA or TFC or Seattle be penalized because Colorado is super cheap and have only had one DP in their entire history?

What if LA wants to try and sign Ronaldo in 2017? His contract expires then, and there have been whispers. He'd be the same age as when Beckham came. It's not ridiculous to put that forward. Should LA be told no, you can't sign him because Colorado and NE are cheap?

I want the best players possible in this league, period. If that means some teams suck (which they already do) then so be it. There's more to sports than money. People complain all the time the league interferes too much, and that all teams should be allowed to spend what they want, then they complain when teams like LA and Seattle and TFC do. Make up your mind people.

 

I only complain about the spending when I can't figure out how doing so possibly can have a positive economic impact. Beckham paid for himself via marketing deals and jersey sales. Seattle sells so many damned tickets, I see how they can afford Dempsey. But TFC seems to be little more than a glorified loss leader for its owner. It's ********ing bizarre.

That said, I won't bitch too much about it because I'm not convinced that it'll do them any good. Three DPs means not a helluva lot of cap space for the rest of the roster. A smart organization might pull it off if they have a lit of homegrowns, gen Adidas kinds of guys; have structured a roster carefully such that paying three guys max salaries will still allow them to field 8+ other competent and complimentary players. Thing is, TFC is pretty much the antithesis of a smart organization.

 

Just to revisit the RBNY townhall, if that crowd reaction were to happen in Columbus it would be handled differently. In less than one minute people would be getting thrown out and if it continued the event would be cancelled before three minuets passed. I would not be surprised if they tried to arrest people or ban them from the stadium while keeping their season ticket deposits. I would prefer it not to be that way but that is how I believe it to be with the Crew.

 

Ok.

 

This is a new Columbus Crew SC era... so only pictures would be taken at the event. But later, you get a black sack over the head while you are sleeping in the middle of the night and are dragged out of your house to never be seen again. Soon after, the FO stops requesting that the Obetz facility grounds get any upgrades...

 

Alrighty then.

 

This 100%. My only addition is my frustrations is the changing rules. Don "We are only 20 years old" Garber kinda makes it up which frustrates me. I am fine with teams paying whatever but let us have rules that allow us to understand the process.