More likely line-up: -------------Rimando------------- Evans---Jones----Besler----Sorto/O'Neill Nguyen---Bradley---Diskerud---Shea --------Altidore---Dempsey------- Subs: Zardes, Akindele, Gil, Kitchen, Birnbaum
the seemingly unanimous obsession with rogers has gotten way out of hand...he's so unremarkable and not a standout player AT ALL. imo, hes beniftting greatly from playing on a team with by far the largest payroll in MLS (3x more than the revs!)put him on a bottom table MLS team and i think he struggles.....2 years ago it looked like he would go down on the wrong end of one of worst trades in MLS history. now hes an okay starter and people wanna put him on the national team?? the guy hasnt even played a full season at left back and hes Close to 30yo...2 strikes. i feel like perhaps people care so much about his extra curriculars they cant see it. or something, idk.... its no wonder to me that american fans clamor for a guy like Robbie and their national Team has been stuck in neutral for decades. the collective Soccer IQ in the USA has got to be among the lowest in the world...although it is improving....
A certain MLS MVP would disagree with you on Rogers: http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/...rogers-deserves-a-usmnt-call-up-at-left-back/ Also his whoscored.com ratings are the best in the MLS for a starting back: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/28488/
honestly, ive watched him Play with an open mind. i kept reading everyone raving about him....i actually read that article quoting keane when it first came out and thought, "wow...he must be playing pretty well for keane to come out like that"...i was excited becuz i feel JK ignores MLS largely to his own detriment....so I watched the galaxy matches towards the end of the season and a lot of the Playoff games in MLS and he just didnt impress me at all. he gets open and has Speed and makes crosses but...in the end, it leads to nothing. that wouldnt be enough to me if he could do the same thing for the national Team and it will be tougher to replicate those inadequate performances internationally. i was tired of watching beasley do the same thing. and brek shea etc etc...and then get praised for their dead end runs and aimless forays!! in MLS Cup rogers walked in on Goal with a 1 on 1 and kicked it right into the keeper....i knew he would not score and he didnt. if he was 21... maybe he could be a Project. but being fast and having a Motor isnt enough to deserve the amount of support he is getting. if he gets a chance, i hope he proves me wrong. but at his Age i question the Investment in a Player who may be flaming but is definitely not lighting the world on fire with his Play.(sorry i couldnt resist) on the other Hand, i do get a sense that he has another gear that he just cant quite find so far at left back and if he does reach it, then he might prove usmnt-worthy. until he does....i just dont see it.
27 years old is close to 30? C'mon. Rogers will be 31 at the next World Cup. That's younger than Beasley was in 2014, and the same age as Bocanegra was in 2010. His age shouldn't be an issue this cycle. As for his ability, I'm not sold on him as a solution to the position. He's probably below Garza, Johnson and Chandler in my mind. But those guys aren't here. The MLS pool of LBs is weak, but Rogers seems like he could be the best of the bunch. The January camp would have been the perfect time to take a look at him. Instead, Klinsmann called up nobody to play the position. So either someone like Brad Evans is going to have to play there, or a youngster like Pelosi. I definitely think Rogers would have been preferable.
It's not an obsession. I don't think anyone is saying RR is a great player. What I am saying is that we are really weak, really weak at left back, so bringing in the clearly top MLS performer at that position makes a lot of sense. So much so, although I agree with JK's emphasis on youth, I would have brought in Rogers instead of another older player, or another younger player or instead of Hedges (regardless of whether Hedges "deserves" it more, as we have a lot more strength at center back than left back). In fact, if JK brought in another starting MLS left back instead of Rogers, I would have been OK with that. So unless JK is going to move Fabian Johnson back to left back (assuming he ever plays at club again) or - gasp - play Brek Shea there, this is a big mistake in my opinion.
I think you underestimate Rogers' soccer IQ, and his ability to connect with the other players on the field with combination play. These are crucial attributes for a Galaxy player - perhaps not so much for the national team, though. Your other comment above - - not cool.
With JK's comments on the roster being Olympics focused I sure hope he remembers we're playing in a Gold Cup in the summer. I was already nervous, and his latest comments don't help. Hoping we have a LB that will be able to play in that tournament, and play a back up by any chance? Drop Oscar Sorto and call in Rogers. Done.
Nah. I always thought his speed was a cloak to cover up poor decision making. He is in a good situation in LA.
i was on here in 2013 arguing for lee nguyen. i obviously wouldve taken ld too...there were other Players that should have been taken as well. i think those 2 guys alone wouldve made a world of difference in brazil.same type of thing with this camp cupcake, theres 5-10 Players who should be there but arent...that will have a ripple effect on the Team's Performance down the line. roster selection is soo important. i think if jk would just go a Little more with the crowd on roster selection and be more discerning with his callups and who he keeps calling up, the Team would be so much better. he thinks the Team and System is more important than which Players he uses. his ego is getting in the way of true success. his biggest miscalcualtion if u ask me. as far as a better national Team, i think the majority of People on here would have a good shot at that. how hard is it to lose to ireland 4-1?
I think you make good points here, but there are also some counterpoints worth raising Even though Rogers won't be too old, he's no 100-cap guy like Beasley or Bocanegra. Also, by age 31, Bocanegra was first and foremost a CB for us. The only reason he occasionally stood in at LB was, well, Johnny Bornstein. Rogers is also old enough that it's unlikely he'll improve much. Given that he's slightly older than Johnson and significantly older than Chandler or Garza, he's at a disadvantage relative to any of them. Other foreign-based defenders with NT experience at LB are Orozco, Castillo, Ream, and Lichaj. None is a great option, but some if not all of them are probably ahead of Rogers. All are similar in age to him. Rogers is also similar in age to Sinovic, Loyd, and Morrow, all of whom have been fringe NTers already. Would I have preferred to see Rogers in camp? Personally, yes, largely because it would give the coaches a chance to scrutinize his play when he doesn't have a dominant Galaxy team around him. But I won't mind if we give a young player an opportunity to step in at LB.
He does have tendency to not produce that good final pass or goal, but his decisions elsewhere on the field tend to help much more than hurt. Not a perfect player, but keeps his head up more than he used to.
I agree with Hararea and adam tash with regard to Rogers. Klinsmann is probably happy with either Garza or Johnson at LB, maybe even Chandler, so he decided he'd rather get a jump on figuring out who will be the core of the Olympic team rather than who will be 3rd string LB. It's certainly a debatable approach (I don't think we've ever had this explicit focus on the Olympic team this far out), but it's not completely crazy. I always include the caveat here that I just watch the couple nationally televised MLS games each week and thus probably only see each team several times per season, but in the games I saw, Rogers didn't look like a surefire, have-to-call-him-ASAP type of player. He seemed like an above average MLS LB, but didn't "wow" me the way someone like Nguyen did. So, while I probably would have called Rogers in, I don't think it's some egregious snub that Klinsmann didn't.
Also a parenting technique when you know your child is not telling the truth and you want them to spill the beans without realizing it.
Yeah, he's no 100 cap guy. But he has 18, so it's not like he's a complete national team novice. And similar to Beasley, the position switch to LB could be his ticket to renewed national team relevance. All fair points. But once again, none of those guys are available for this camp. I think Rogers had a better season and more potential at the position than any of them, but if Klinsmann rated one of them higher than Rogers and had called one in, I wouldn't have made too much fuss. I just don't like that he basically called in no one to play the position. That's fair. Though I worry that sticking a young guy at an unfamiliar position would be setting him up for failure. I'm less familiar with some of these youngsters. I think Dean and Pelosi have manned LB before, but it's not either's primary position. And it's a big jump from having little to no pro game time experience to starting for the national team. I suspect Klinsmann will end up starting a veteran there, but I don't know who. Perhaps Brad Evans, though I'm not sure who then plays at RB. O'Neill and Kitchen have played RB in MLS before, but it isn't either's best position. Sorto is a RB but he's not ready to play for the Galaxy, much less start for the national team. I guess we could have another outside the box position switch, like Shea or Jones playing LB. After all, "anyone can play left back."
Never mind me wondering where Evans will play... U.S. Soccer @ussoccer 2m2 minutes ago #USMNT @brad_evans3 withdrawn from camp after being diagnosed with tendonitis in left knee. http://ussoc.cr/1C7Ju4f
U.S. Soccer @ussoccer 4m4 minutes ago #USMNT @J_Klinsmann has called in two-time #FIFA World Cup veteran @JozyAltidore to the January camp roster #USAvPAN
I'm interested to see how Rogers does this year. He's a solid LB, I honestly would like for him to get a look, but him not being called in is not the end of the world.
Altidore Dempsey Shea Mix Nguyen Bradley O neil Besler Jones ? Who is going to play right back now that Evans is out? Rimando