Pre-match: Toronto FC @ Revs 10/25

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by TottenhamRevolution, Oct 19, 2014.

  1. TottenhamRevolution

    Sep 1, 2014
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    This one now has little to no meaning after the Revs have clinched the 2 seed and Toronto has been eliminated from playoff contention.

    The only thing worth playing for is 4th place overall, which could be a way into the CCL. However, even that may not matter come Saturday as if RSL beats Chivas on Wednesday. If that is the result, the Revs won't be able to finish any higher than 5th. A draw or Chivas win would give the Revs some hope going into Saturday. The only other team who could finish ahead of them is Dallas. They have an 8:30 start Saturday night at home against hungry Portland team. Dallas would need to win as a draw and aRevs win would give the Revs the tiebreaker.

    So, to clinch 4th place overall the Revs need:

    -A win Saturday against Toronto

    and

    -A RSL draw or lost at home Wednesday against Chivas

    and

    A Dallas draw or lost at home Saturday against Portland.

    Another thing which they could be playing for is to add to MVLee's year in the MVP race, but that is very very minor. Especially as he is one yellow card away from missing a match. And that is where I think MVLee, Soares and Barnes should all sit as they all are one yellow away from missing the first playoff game. Daigo made it through Houston without a card so he gets the good behavior incentive. Barnes is now one game away. MVLee and Soares are not in good behavior range yet. It may be wise to sit JJ too as he has 3 and you wouldn't want him going into the playoffs with 4, as I can't see him going through the entire playoffs without getting a YC (I'm not sure if at any point in the playoffs if YC's reset).

    So, other than getting guys who are banged up and injured some rest there are guys who we can't afford to lose due to YC accumulation. I want to see as many regulars as possible that are healthy and safe on cards for at least 45 to refrain from getting out of sync and rusty.

    Finally, I think we'd all like to see Shalrie Joseph play and get the recognition which he deserves.
     
  2. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It does appear that yellow card are reset, but any suspensions picked up in the next match will carry over.
     
  3. a517dogg

    a517dogg Member+

    Oct 30, 2005
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I'd like to see:

    Mullins
    Diego-Neumann-Kobayashi-TonyTaylor
    Dorman
    Tierney-Soares-Goncalves-Alston
    Knighton

    60 minute sub, Shalrie for Dorman
    70 minute sub, Castillion for Mullins

    Give Nguyen, JJ, Rowe, Davies, Farrell, Shuttleworth some rest and make sure they don't get injured.
    Keep Daigo's streak alive!
    Continue to give Mullins and Neumann more time in case they are required in the playoffs
    Try to get Diego back in form
    Get Dorman some fitness back from injury in case we need him in the playoffs
    Give 90 minutes to Taylor to see what he can do
    Keep Soares and Goncalves together because they clearly still have some kinks that need to be worked out
    and give Shalrie a standing O in Gillette
     
  4. SamSam

    SamSam Member

    Feb 26, 2009
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your logic is pretty sound, but I think Alston is so injury prone that he should probably sit too, is there anyone else on the team besides Barnes and Farrell that can play RB? How about Donnie Smith?
     
  5. a517dogg

    a517dogg Member+

    Oct 30, 2005
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    He's another player who I've liked whenever I've seen him play. But I believe he's almost Tierney-like in his left-footedness. Not sure he'd do well on the right side.

    Maybe try Caldwell as a right back for a game?
     
  6. dcochran

    dcochran Member+

    Feb 17, 1999
    Vero Beach, FL
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This works, but I'd prefer to start Shalrie and sub him either at 30 min or, if he's up to it, in the second half. It's a better opportunity to give him the sendoff that he deserves to sub him off during the game, but it's a shame to waste two subs on the same position.
     
  7. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    I expect Nguyen to be rested (could be interesting to give Diego a chance in the center of the field).

    As for Barnes on yellow-watch, I'm not worrying about that. He's a backup and I'm hoping we don't need him in the playoffs. That said, Farrell got his game off and they'll want Tierney to get some action before he gets too stale.
     
  8. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. VTSoccerFan

    VTSoccerFan Member+

    New England Revolution, Vermont Catamounts, NCFC
    United States
    Jun 28, 2002
    Cary, NC
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What impact would a crowd of 30K+ have on the Revs lineup and minutes?
     
  10. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    Mass Soccer is saying in it's ticket offer that 30K are expected!
     
  11. VTSoccerFan

    VTSoccerFan Member+

    New England Revolution, Vermont Catamounts, NCFC
    United States
    Jun 28, 2002
    Cary, NC
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  12. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, so many times this season we've benefited by playing teams with injuries or suspensions... Great for points accumulation but once playoffs are in full swing, we will probably have to beat teams at full strength.
     
  13. CottageRev

    CottageRev Member+

    Jun 13, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I honestly can't get over how much of a bust Defoe has been for TFC. He was dominant at the beginning but has missed nearly half the season, and even when he finally came back from the various injuries/suspensions he hasn't looked good at all.

    I think as long as Diego, Shalrie, and JJ gets some minutes, the lineup impact would otherwise be minimal. Despite his awesome season, Lee isn't that recognizable outside the core fanbase.
     
  14. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    I'll be pretty shocked if Shalrie plays. He hasn't played a minute all season. Has he even made the bench? I don't think so.
     
  15. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And just think about all the millions they are on the hook for! Suddenly Kraft's stingy ways aren't looking so awful.
     
  16. a517dogg

    a517dogg Member+

    Oct 30, 2005
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    And apparently Toronto sold Doneil Henry to a club in Cyprus months ago and have had him on loan ever since. Wow wtf.

    Toronto is such a soap opera, our backups better torch these guys. They've got to be so demoralized.
     
  17. Brazile

    Brazile Member

    Mar 12, 2000
    Arlington, MA, USA
    Thought he made the bench once. Mostly not even that, and listed with injuries from time to time.
     
  18. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. Feldspar

    Feldspar Member+

    Nov 19, 1998
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He made the bench at least once, and warmed up with the subs exactly once. I remember singing to the joy of even watching him do high knees
     
  21. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sad to see this kind of stuff happen to people, when they make these kinds of greed-oriented mistakes that show horrendous judgment. The whole thing about being a referee is to exercise good judgment in whatever situation occurs on the field. If a guy is stupid enough to get caught doing something that is easily verified, who knows how susceptible he would be to maybe subtly influencing the outcome of a game if he had a little "incentive" to do so.

    And of course, the wise guy in me wants to make the obvious joke: An MLS referee being arrested for fraud? He must have been busted for trying to pass himself off as a semi-competent referee!
     
  22. SamSam

    SamSam Member

    Feb 26, 2009
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the Revs next game after Toronto is either Saturday or Sunday November 1st or 2nd, that would be about 15 days from the Houston game for a player to "rest" if they don't play on Saturday against Toronto. In my mind, that seems like a great idea for guys who have been playing 90% of the team's games this year, but the argument could be made that you could get "rusty" from all the time off.

    The other thing in the decision would be preventing a player from getting suspended for the first playoff game, either from red cards or yellow accumulation (MVLee, Soares, Barnes). I'd really prefer not risking suspensions by playing a meaningless game.
    What Heap's preferred back line for this team in the playoffs? I think it involves Alston, JoGO, AJ, Farrell and Barnes as the utility backup, then Tierney is probably the second backup
     
  23. lufty

    lufty Member

    Aug 21, 2000
    Pretty close to a full lower bowl. less then 1000 tickets left. Seem to be going fast.

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  24. SamSam

    SamSam Member

    Feb 26, 2009
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would this mean, that if say you had tickets in 103, you wouldn't really be able to get into the fort?
     
  25. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forgive me for being skeptical, but there was a game earlier this year with a similar seating diagram was used and it looked like there were very few seats available. At the game, it turned out to be not even close to being full. It was s decent crowd, but I think all of those seats that were noted as "taken" were actually on hold and later released. I think the lower bowl was like 2/3 to 3/4 full, when the diagrams showed it to be 95% full.

    Anyone else remember this?
     

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