MLS sale of Chivas USA looming(?) asking price varies from one source to the next

I'm just looking at the construction timelines of the current stadium developments.

The Quakes are on an approx. 18-19 month build time. They began actual construction (after a lengthy excavation/demo process) in June 2013. They will be finishing up ~January/Feb 2015 (?).

Orlando is planning on a ~16 month build plan (starting in Oct 2014 and ready by March 2016). Their site requires minimal demolition. (This timeline also may be optimistic based on the Quakes schedule)

I figure an LA stadium to be on the bigger side of SSS, so estimate at least 18- 20 months for construction (two seasons). Starting from square one, you would have to assume a minimum of a year (a third season) to plan and prep for construction. I'm sure they've inquired about stadium locations along with purchasing the Goats, but who knows how far they are along with that.

Any delays at all, they start pushing into the fourth season.

My opinion only

 

In response to your 70% tarped number... I'm gonna be real frank here...

Most Bigsoccer folks are familiar with the "Seattle invented MLS" in-joke, but there is some truth to it. Although the Galaxy has largely been the poster boys for MLS over the last decade, it's sorta positioned badly for a brand/team refresh. It's not getting a new stadium any time soon. It's going to take a megalith superstar to really push the needle in terms of public interest. I suppose they could drop the whole "Galaxy" thing, but something tells me that's not in the cards. So really, if the Galaxy wants to capture the attention of LA, it's gonna have to do it the old fashioned way.

On the other hand, a new team in LA, playing the Coliseum, basically gunning for a Donovan-less Galaxy... ooof. It hurts my head just thinking about it. If they were savvy (compared to the largely tone-deaf Galaxy), well priced, (compared to the... well you get it), and brought in the right stars... I don't know if they'd have to tarp off 70% of the Coliseum. 50% maybe, just to keep demand high.

 

I think, "league is behind it" would be an understatement. Don Garber would pee his pants doing a happy dance if there was a team in LA playing in a downtown-ish stadium with easy rail access.

 

Need to drop the fees on their ticket provider... Bought some tickets to the final game vs the Quakes and the fees were the price of a third ticket. AVS is worse than Ticketmaster...

 

Or, they could go back to Carson temporarily.

 

The demo of the existing building is also what makes the site so attractive. There wouldn't have to be any utilites upgrades.

I don't know if you know how long it takes to get the Department of Sanitation in LA to change out an existing 6" sewer main to a 24" sewer main. It is not a short amount of time. The fact that the sewers, water, power, etc. are already there is a huge advantage.

 

I don't know about that. There's been plenty of friendlies at the Coliseum over the years, and the Copa Centroamericana Final was just played there a couple weeks ago. Plus the infamous 1998 US/Brazil Gold Cup match.

 

Just hearing the news ...

Oh, Chivas ... good riddance!

Get in line!

 

FWIW, the StubHub Center soccer stadium was built in about 15 months.

 

Read the article and the discussion. The telling bit is definitely that two year minimum hiatus.

After NYCFC's stadium troubles, I'm thinking that LA2 isn't coming back until the stadium is built.

And that's not gonna be for a good long while.

 

Hell, I might leak a little over that...

 

How do you know that exactly? It's not like the new owners haven't begun their stadium search process, MLS had even begun it for them. And unlike NYC, there's some good land available to build a stadium here in L.A.

 

so what happens to Chivas USA's draft picks they gave away?

 

I wasn't born yesterday. That's how.

Somebody probably knows this: going from design to completion,what's the fastest an MLS stadium has been built?

 

Crew Stadium. 9 months and a day.

 

Crew Stadium was also built on the extreme cheap and no new stadium would be built that simply today.

 

What's a good long time in your eyes? A good long time to me isn't like 2-4 years.

 

Yeah, CCS is a different example.

But I believe stadiums in Frisco, Commerce City, Bridgeview, Sandy all materialized and opened within 2 years. And those required votes to use public money, where this won't.

 

Yeah, but it came from Ikea

 

They also weren't built in states as developmentally challenged as California. If they didn't get an EIR waiver that process alone would take a year, assuming it didn't get challenged. Just ask the Earthquakes FO how easy it is to build a private stadium in California. It's taken them 7 years.

 

Thanks, I may need a new keyboard from spitting my drink all over it.

 

StaplesCenter took 19 months to build.

 

AEG really didn't have any issues building StubHub and Staples Center. Only issue they ran into with StubHub was a NIMBY lawsuit that delayed it by about 6 months, but there'd really be no NIMBY issue at Expo Park. I'm sure some group will complain but it'll get dismissed quickly.