Despite what it seems, Roma have barely spent anything in the market the last 3 years, most of the purchases were funded by sales. The only summer we spent heavily was 2011, and I don't think it counts anymore.
I'm not a FFP expert (although all the pdf's are available to read on uefa.com - I just can't be bothered to to actually look at them) but I think the basic premise is that clubs are being examined on whether they can maintain some kind of solvency standard. I don't think Roma is in any real trouble either but just remember the money garnished from European play is taken in to account the following year.
The British press are suggesting UEFA are looking at clubs that haven't been in Europe last season, as the same thing has happened to Liverpool
UEFA and their investigation can piss off. Why don't they investigate Man United and all the money they flushed down the toiled this summer. http://www.uefa.org/protecting-the-...ze+money+five+clubs+withheld+overdue+payables
What was PSG's punishment again? Minimizing the CL roster to 18 instead of 21, all after outrageously spending? It's who is in bed with who. And unfortunately, Blatter's son doesn't work for Roma; he works for PSG.
Monaco should be in good shape now. They sold James for like 20 mil more than they bought him for, and we should be fine because 2011 is out of the scope of the FFP regs. It still makes me mad though. Who the hell are UEFA to tell Roma, Monaco, Inter, or whomever that they can't spend at a deficit for a few summers to do the necessary overhauls of the roster? Someone should investigate United. UEFA hate drug users, and someone was high as a kite when they did their valuation of Fellaini.
Something like that. They did something similar for City, who have to have more homegrowns than everyone else or something stupid. City still got Mangala, and PSG still got David Luiz and Aurier.
It's their tournament. Their rules. This isn't a human rights violation we are talking about. There is no such thing as a right to play CL The tournament is invitation only and if they want to rescind my/your invitation they can But nothing bad will happen to Roma and Liverpool and everyone else per se just that Roma will be forced to limit their spending. And I am sure the Roma management knew the risk and it paid off. AS did Liverpool. CL will cover the deficit. United isn't investigated this year the same reason why Roma wasn't investigated last year...no CL/EL They would utterly fail if they did but like Roma they toook a risk. if they reach Cl they will earn enough money to offset their losses if not they are missing CL anyway so it wont matter that they are excluded from Europe
That's fine. Come out and say you're a dictatorship, and I won't complain. Until then, they're putting on the facade of being humanitarian, trying to close the wealth gap, etc., and it's fraudulent, corrupt garbage.
I'm just saying here , but United has the revenue to pull this sort of transfermarket and still profit. Let that sink in for a second.
They had a profit of 20 million pounds before signing Di Maria I am pretty sure. They then signed him for $100 million and added Falcao's healthy wages on top of it. They really make awful choices though.
for this year maybe. The previous years they hadn't spent almost anything (in big team's terms) , United has never splashed the cash on big names or had outrageous markets like Real / Barça / PSG City. I'm sure they're more than fine.
I like the clubs statement on FFP. I am very proud to support this club right now, always have been but the transparency right now is excellent.
To me it just seems like a typical protocol from UEFA. Not the warning and threatening to fine nonsense that the media are trying to stir up. Neither Roma or Liverpool's management's sound all that worried.
Without reading all of it, the basics are that revenue increased by 3% since the previous year. Up to 128 million from 124 million. Losses decreased slightly since the previous year (3.9%) from 40 million to 38.5. So we still lose a ton of money every year. Next year will likely look very good thanks to the CL money. Depending on how far we go we might not have loses next year. You can interpret that how you will, but I will say that depending on something which you have no guarantee to participate in is risky business. Roma still needs to increase revenue drastically in my opinion.
I don't get the debt part. Does this mean that without CL football we're LOSING 40m every year? If that's so , does this mean we've got (theoretically) 38+40m debts accumulated in 2 years? How do we even have money to spend on the market then? Also , isn't 61m short term debts and 75m long term debts a ton of money?
Those aren't huge numbers comparatively speaking. IIRC, United are/were in the hole a couple hundred million, but a lot of businesses have some debt. I'll defer to someone who does this for a living on how that works. The bottom line is that football is a money pit.
Yes Roma loses a lot of money. As for having money to spend, every year the owners have gone in with more money. They also have some long term loans with UniCredit which were given around the initial purchase. The most recent time they went in with fresh money (earlier this year) they even asked the small share holders to go in with money. Basically Roma is dependent on playing in Champions League in order to break even. It's what did Rosella Sensi in. Under her reign they enter into CL and the accounts looked good. They were able to spend slightly and break even. But as soon as they failed to qualify for CL then the loses being building up.
So in order to break the vicious cycle , our only way out is to increase our revenue... at least twofold?
It's hard to say flat out. Yeah revenue needs to increase, but you need to consider in certain situations increased revenue brings increased operating expenses. Take a new stadium for example, it's not unreasonable to imagine that it will cost a lot more to run it. Our even Champions League football, reaching that goal meant giving a lot of players bonuses and increased contracts. So it's difficult to pull a flat number out, but yeah ... revenue needs to increase by a lot.