VfB Stuttgart: 2014/15 Season First Half - Hinrunde Discussion

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  1. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
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    Austria
  2. Mailman44

    Mailman44 Member

    Aug 4, 2008
    Lithia
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think a lot of squads in the Bundesliga have improved this season. Can't say the Swabians have ....
     
  3. schwabe13

    schwabe13 Member

    Jan 27, 2006
    in the best MLS town
    Next week ....
     
  4. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    The first round of the 2014/15 DFB-Pokal begins this weekend. VfB Stuttgart will play against VfL Bochum at the Rewirpower Stadium in Bochum on Saturday 16.08.2014, 15:30.

    Important to start the new season on a strong positive note. Team has been busy training this week in preparation for Saturday. New signing Filip Kostic is also expected to make his debut.
     
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  5. Potato Head

    Potato Head Member

    Jul 12, 2014
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Match Day 1: 1-1 draw away at Moenchengladbach.

    Maxim replaces Kostic and scores a well taken goal. We also had a goal taken away in the first half for reasons I'm still unsure of (because I was watching in Russian). We wavered between looking good and looking average. Schwaab had an excellent last ditch tackle. Borussia were lucky to get anything from that game. Bad luck, but it's not an away point to be embarassed about. Ibrahima Traore had a completely undeserved yellow, but I don't care because screw that guy.

    Next four matches are crazy. Need to win the home fixtures (Cologne and Hoffenheim) because we've somehow drawn Bayern away and Dortmund away as two of our first five matches of the season.
     
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  6. Mailman44

    Mailman44 Member

    Aug 4, 2008
    Lithia
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As unpredictable as the Bundesliga is I would not be completely shocked if VfB finished in the top 10. Last seasons squad seriously underachieved, maybe this season's will do the opposite?
     
  7. Potato Head

    Potato Head Member

    Jul 12, 2014
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    I think there's a clear top 5 in terms of quality: Bayern, BVB, Schalke, Leverkusen, and Wolfsburg. After that everyone's pretty equal, except for probably Paderborn. I still think Stuttgart can finish 6th and qualify for Europe this season, but it would take some great coaching and good luck to make it happen.
     
  8. el americano

    el americano Moderator
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    United States
    Jun 9, 2006
    San Francisco
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I finally got around to watching this. What a blow to lose the victory at the 89 minute mark! There were long stretches, before the first substitutions where we looked the better squad, but they had a lot more chances than us - including a should-have-been tap in by Hrgota and another called back by a borderline offside call. (Our goal was called back for a push by Ibisevic, BTW).

    After the subs, they had the better chances, with Hazard and Kramer always looking dangerous. That's when our defense had trouble getting back on the counter attacks. Rüdiger is going to get burned many times this year. He just makes too many mistakes. We looked tentative, making a lot of safe passes behind teammates to give them time and space to collect. Gladbach also looked very lazy in the defense, dropping back even in their own half. 1-1 was a fair result for a first match.

    The positives were that our defense looked more organized than last year. Ibisevic got good service from Maxim and Sakai - although Sakai's crosses were rather weak. Romeu looks to be a very good addition that makes the players around him better, sorry Kvist. I could see a top-half finish if the team gets sharper and doesn't give up half-way through the season. Let's aim for no manager changes this season, and we'll call it a moral victory. ;)
     
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  9. cortisoljunkie

    Jun 24, 2014
    melancholy hill
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Someone forgot to tell the Hamburger that; Paderborn devoured them... ;) (I know..hindsight).
     
  10. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #10 Winoman, Sep 20, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2014
    Well, another season, another shitty start. After 4 matches, Stuttgart are in the bottom of the cellar, with only one point to show their 'efforts.' Lack of scoring, a midfield weak as water, and the defensive spine of a jellyfish have the fans up in arms!

    Team management, and Bobic in particular, have wreaked their havoc, with their lack of ambition, for far too long. Picking up mediocre players on a free, every now and then, is not the way to build a winning team. How good Veh is as a coach - with the lack of quality starters (& depth) he has to work with - we'll soon find out, if we haven't already.
     
  11. Potato Head

    Potato Head Member

    Jul 12, 2014
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Bobic out, according to several reliable sources. To be confirmed by the club before the match today.
     
  12. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten....nnt.2e1a3358-9821-4d2d-bbe0-afe9184b4e98.html


    From STUTTGARTER-NACHRICHTEN.DE:

     
  13. Rainer24

    Rainer24 Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
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    I still don't understand why he was given so little to work with. I know that the stadium expansion/renovation caused some funds to dry up, but with the sizable fan-base, and near capacity crowds it appeared to me that VfB were only going after players on free-transfers - and not necessarily very good ones, either. The quality is just not there, nor is there any good depth on the bench.

    Next up: I would think that the Board has to share in the blame, but will they also take a hit? I don't mean firing all of them at once, of course, but that also ties in to the fact that Bobic wasn't given much in the way of resources to build a credible team.

    We'll see, said the blind man...
     
  15. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Statement from VfB management:

    http://www.vfb.de/en/aktuell/meldungen/news/2014/fredi-bobic/page/3303-1-1-.html?f2
     
  16. Potato Head

    Potato Head Member

    Jul 12, 2014
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    There was no way that match was going to end with us winning. We were 2-0 up, how could we possibly win? I hate Sven Ulreich.
     
  17. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't see the match, was it really all on Ulreich? I know up to this point he hasn't covered himself in glory, but he's had an inconsistent defense in front of him, too.
     
  18. Borussia

    Borussia Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    Fürth near Nuremberg
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What hypocrites represent the VfB board? :rolleyes: Why don't these persons have the guts to tell Bobic his dismissal personally?

    This reminds me of a similar farce in Nuremberg a couple of years ago concerning the firing of Hans Meyer.
     
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  19. Potato Head

    Potato Head Member

    Jul 12, 2014
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    The second goal was all on him, but other than that he was decent. Generally I'm just not a fan.
     
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  20. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
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    DC United
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  21. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Glory Hallelujah! VfB won a match! They eke out a 1 - 0 victory over Hannover to get, just barely, above the relegation zone.
     
  22. Lamprey

    Lamprey Member

    Jul 2, 2010
    Las Vegas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was at the stadium yesterday, the ultras were amazing. Had several good signs, we're extremely loud with numerous different songs all match and plenty of flags, confetti, dancing and partying. Stuttgart played well and didn't look like a team at bottom of table at all. Hannover offered nothing and sat so deep with no pressing, they didn't even want to go for a goal. Hannover's tactics were embarrassing for a team at top of table, set out for a draw and almost got it.

    Bobic is a difficult case. He was given little to work with, but his signings were questionable as well. When 4 trainers struggled to do anything with the team it is time to start questioning the roster. All of those trainers couldn't be that bad. I think things will be ok and stabilize with Veh. I'll try to post pictures when I get back from trip.
     
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  23. el americano

    el americano Moderator
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    Jun 9, 2006
    San Francisco
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    United States
    #23 el americano, Sep 28, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2014
    That was pretty remarkable. Looks like Wahler gets a second chance. Let's hope he sees that achieving a cheap mid-table finish is not a long term survival strategy.

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    Better to see them attacking now, rather than "Niemals Zweite Liga" at the end of the season. :thumbsup:

    EDIT: It's worth noting that 33 pkt/37 spiele is Wahler's record, not Bobic's. :whistling:
     
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  24. cortisoljunkie

    Jun 24, 2014
    melancholy hill
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    This is awesome! Quite looking forward to visiting :)

     
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  25. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Too bad I can't rep this 1000 times!
     

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