IBT, I did see the lowlights of Ramiro's shot tonight. MLSWrap showed a few minutes of the match. I even taped it. And you're right, that was a terrible shot. I just keep thinking of Tim Martin, hoofing the ball fifty yards upfield, to the other team. I vividly remember Victor Mella refusing to pass the ball to an open Waldo and losing the ball instead. I recall Martinez getting up field, when the ball was on the other side of the field, and then being horribly caught out when we lost the ball. And Justin Evans trying and failing to play d-mid. I can easily think of many players that once wore the Cloudy Jade, or Baby Puke Green as the case may be, who sucked infinitely more than Ramiro. LONG LIVE THE QUAKES!! Oh, and F$%^ LA while we're at it! - Mark (drinking cheap red wine)
In any order you want: Joey Martinez Jair Justin Evans Harut "Crap" Abdul Thompson Conteh Travis Mulraine Jamie Clark Devin Barclay Azizi Ryan Tinsley Zak Ibsen Giovanni Savarese (the 2nd time) Raul Diaz Arce David Kramer Braedan Cloutier Leighton O'Brien Mike Burns Dan Calichman
Supplemental Worst Draft: Alejandro Sequeira Chris Carrieri (for us, anyway) Scott "Perpetually Injured" Bower Wojtek Krakowiak (didn't do enough with his minutes) Adam Frye Mauricio Solis (See: Bower) Caleb "Red Card" Porter Gabe Eastman Luchi Gonzalez (See: Krakowiak) Rodrigo Faria (except for "that goal")
Pedantic answer: None of us know who the worst player in Quakes history is - 'cause I'm sure he never made it on the field. Pragmatic answer: I assume you mean the worst player to actually play on a regular basis... I really have no idea who the worst player is - but I know it's not Ramiro. Several suggestions were listed above...maybe one of them is right. Ramiro's problem is that he shows good dribbling skills, decent passing skills, solid work-rate, reasonable defense, and then he winds up to shoot and he busts out with outstanding field-goal skills. I don't think Ramiro is a bad player at all - but he shows enough skill to create expectations which he then just doesn't seem to meet. His other problem is that DeRo is on the bench (and I'd rather see DeRo in Corrales' spot with LD-Ching up top).
Ok, this thread is getting a little off track. We should stick to Corrales. He did not play poorly tonight at all. Sure he had a 1-on-1 with Cannon and missed it, but a bunch of other players did as well, and none of them are being singled out. Ekelund had the ball at least 3 times in the box and nothing came of it. Donovan was again invisible for extended periods. Mullan was a frequent target of pickpicketers. And I thought it was clear that Dunivant (whom I really like) had an especially terrible day with frequent passes to the wrong team and poor positioning.
Are you kidding me? He has more talent in his small toe than half of the SJ squad. Aforoozing has begun, non-believers...
There are several worse players on the Earthquakes this season, notable among them Waibel, Agos, and DeRosario.
corrales is one of the quakes worsts players, but i have to jamil walker is pretty bad too. Everytime he's played he has done nothing that has impressed me.
as bad as y'all think Ramiro is, and I for one have banged my head in frustration over his lousy first touch, his penchant for clogging the middle & leaving the outside wide open for opposing players to run free, and his woeful attempts on goal, he is an Earthquake and he does not deserve this bashing....if he wore a different jersey, then I would agree wholeheartedly.... although I do not understand why he continually gets the nod over DeRo....but that is a DK (lack of) decision.... target one out of 11 may not be justified....
There were a few San Jose players in the NASL days whose play made Corrales' (and all the other players listed in this thread thus far) current play seem world-class. GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! -G
Ramiro has a tendency to blast the ball over the bar (Braeden Cloutier-style, there's another Clash name for ya all) and I think he was making a conscious effort to keep this one on target. I'd be more frustrated if he never worked on this area and just kept sending shots into orbit. I think Ramiro is valuable as someone that can come seemingly out of nowhere to strip the opposing defense of the ball to create dangerous situations and disrupt developing attacks in a similar manner. He's our modern equivalent of Jeff Baicher
Yes. In medical terms, it's known as the Corralesian Complex. I agree with Noah, Ekelund4Life has not seen some of those who really fit the title. And, masoo, the game last night was not boring, it was frustrating.
In response to the entire thread, I would first say, "No spejic, Ekelund4Life asked 'Who is the worst player in San Jose History?'" I can see from the posts of the youngsters that they haven't got a clue because they didn't see the really dark days of the SJ franchise as noted by markmcf8, bpc and others. Almost every player on the team (I am excluding Barclay and also someone like Carrieri whom even Yallop couldn't do anything with) since the beginning of 2001 has been world class compared to what went before, and that includes Ramiro. Whether Frank Yallop could have made something out of those pre-2001 players is anyone's guess, but the present Earthquakes team (everyone on it) is several levels above those of 2000 and before.
This is exactly why Corrales gets picked on.....if you think he is horrible then you wouldn't make a good coach. He brings alot to the table but when he does screw up, he generally does it in big fashion, ie; red card or missed sitter. When you average out his performance over a season.....he is a slightly above average player.
Nice to see someone mention Mike (Mr Goalpost) Burns. Burns was far worse for the Quakes than Calichman was when they played here. Mauricio Wright and Azizzi get my votes, as they had the skill, but rarely showed up. I wouldn't blame Conteh, he was the lone striker in a 4-5-1, and often got the ball with no one to distribute to. Thank you Tom Neale and Frank Yallop for rescuing us from this. Tony
Amen to that. I remember talking to Burns and Calichman at SWTQ in 2000. I don't know whose fault it was but those two had about the most dismal attitudes of any players I've ever talked to. It was obvious both of them wanted to be back home on the east coast, they sure as hell were not happy (but can I blame them? I don't know).
And my vote goes to.......... Tony Crescitelli Vote is dedicated to all the other old timers on the boards