News: Friday , August 01, 2014

Fiosfan, thanks for doing this everyday.

 

This was the fear of many NYC area fans when New York Citeh was announced---the fear that the parent team would treat the MLS team as an after thought and as basically a developer team or feeder team for the EPL team as opposed to a serious team in its own right. Everyone fears the team becoming an English clone of Chivas USA.

So far it's been mixed signals---the ownership has been savvy enough to give the team its own crest and sign some big name DP's--but the announcement of sending players who are not good enough for England to play over here gives me mixed feelings. While it might be nice to see a possible future EPL star make it big here in the US first, you also want to avoid the scenario where NYC FC becomes merely a dumping ground for unwanted players.

Here's to hoping management can find the right balance.

 

when you are the place that a club sends it's young players to "get experience" or "come to New York before they play at Manchester" you are by definition a "feeder club" or "farm team".

now you can still be a fun to watch and good to be a fan of team if you are a "feeder club" but you are still a "feeder club" and 2nd in the pecking order to a "parent club" in the ultimate reckoning.

but didn't the nycfc crowd swear they wouldn't be a "feeder club"?

 

Man I hate crap like this.

 

I'll start to worry when it is the Yankees that are sending players (down) to NYCFC.

 

MLS Will Never Be Taken Seriously With Current USMNT Transfer Rules:

http://www.vavel.com/en-us/soccer/3...iously-with-current-usmnt-transfer-rules.html

 

Report: Red Bulls meet Ronaldinho’s reps; Reunion with Henry coming?

http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/01/report-red-bulls-meet-ronaldinhos-reps-reunion-with-henry-coming/?utm_source=FB - NBC Sports - NBC Sports Soccer&utm_network=facebook&utm_post=2904652&utm_tags=

 

NYC FC story again from BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28600216

 

What to make of the NYC FC story?

I don't think it can be claimed they fit the description of a typical feeder club when they have already brought in big name stars, nor are there any real comparisons with the worse of what went down at Chivas USA - maybe we will have to accept that they are something different?

Now let's say they have 3 or 4 Manc City hopefuls playing, what are the possible scenarios? Is it necessarily a bad thing?

Scenario 1) The player excels becomes a star and is recalled by Man City for the first team.
Scenario 2) The player does well but superfluous to Man Cities requirements.
scenario 3) The player does badly and is replaced by another hopeful.

Scenario 1 is a double edged sword.
On the one hand MLS gets to see a future star do his stuff and be associated with NYC FC but ultimately have to see him go.
Now if MLS produced a young player good enough for Man Cities first team I doubt a big bid would be refused so the only difference there is MLS not getting the $ for the transfer so no real negative and of course the plus is getting to see a player that otherwise would not of played in MLS.
At this moment in time it is much more likely that a top quality prospect would come out of Man City than MLS (No disrespect to MLS, it is just the current state of affairs which may well change in the future) so in terms of quality NYC FC should be on a par with most homegrown MLS players with a better chance of a jem being mined.

With scenario 2 it may well be to MLS benefit (at least at this stage of its development) because a player Man City see as superfluous could still well be a good player and better quality than the average MLS players. If this were the case then NYC FC could well be position A to purchase the player for a cut price instead of them going to a lesser ePL team or elsewhere. If they are just not good enough full stop then we are looking at scenario 3.

Scenario 3 is probably the least likely scenario but if it turns out a guy is not only not Man City quality but not MLS quality then there is little lost and the player can simply be replaced by the next hopeful.

I don't see too many negatives unless NYC FC is swamped with Man City cast offs rather than players with true potential and I don't see that happening as it benefits neither club.

The one major problem could be perception being 9/10ths reality and potential supporters turning their back on what they see as a second hand or inferior product.

 

MLS is a feeder league in the pecking order of world soccer.

 

I guess all the others will come from man citeh development ? cant see them settling for draft-quality guys if they have their own "academy guys" in england....

 

They've got options certainly. (Although I'm not certain of any league-wide allocation/discovery regulations that could inhibit ManCity from a significant pipeline of ManCity players to NYCFC -- without MLS's blessing or regular player movement mechanisms and allowances.)

And I wouldn't assume on quality that "academy guys" in England for ManCity are better footballers than "draft-quality guys" available to NYCFC (and all MLS clubs).

 

People who don't want to take MLS seriously will always find an excuse. There is nothing that is "holding the league back"

 

The guy forgot to insert "by me" right after "will never be taken seriously".

 

If NYCFC is to become CUSA II they will first and foremost need to be horribly run. Because being horribly run, even more than the original CUSA idea, is what made CUSA what it was.

It could possibly be argued that we never really found out if the idea behind CUSA, and by that I mean the idea of being a 'branch' of an already established and hugely popular team, could work. The club was run so badly that this approach never had a chance. We'll never know how it would have played out with a savvy SKC or Seattle type of ownership group.

 

I take it seriously, so you're wrong.

 

I sure hope you took the time to read the article to know the heading is the actual title of the article. But what @AndyMead wrote is true, there's nothing there to hold the league back.

 

does that make the LA Galaxy a feeder club for Sao Paulo?

 

People use "feeder league" like it's a pejorative.

MLS (NASL) is (are) the league(s) I can see games in person.

The EPL is awesome, but it's all but it's not really relevant to my day to day existence. Sure, I'll watch the odd game on TV.

But spectator sports are spectator sports. High school football is a feeder league to college football, but it's pretty popular last time I checked.

Any resident of Los Angeles that stops going to Galaxy games because Man United beat the Galaxy 7-0 in a friendly wasn't going to games because they're a fan.