2014 FIFA World Cup™ Semi-Finals: Netherlands vs Argentina| Wednesday, Jul 9, 4:00 PMET

Discussion in 'World Cup 2014 - Knockout Rounds' started by argentine soccer fan, Jul 6, 2014.

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Who advances to the final?

Poll closed Jul 9, 2014.
  1. Netherlands

    46 vote(s)
    50.5%
  2. Argentina

    45 vote(s)
    49.5%
  1. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    If you ask me right now...

    A masterpiece. Definitely a masterpiece. :D
     
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  2. zahzah

    zahzah Member+

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    I must say: Even the penalty kicks were boring and lacked tension.
     
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  3. canis

    canis Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    La reina del Plata
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Just wanted to check in. I´m off to celebrate. To those saying this was a bad game, I have news for you. You know shit about football. This match was brillantly played by both sides and could have been won by either.
    The dutch should keep their heads up. They showed talent and flexibility in this world cup. And they have the second best player in the world.
    Thank you Jefecito!
     
  4. benztown

    benztown Member+

    Jun 24, 2005
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Not what I saw TBH. Neither team looked particularly interested in going forward. Argentina invested slightly more during regular time, Holland slightly more in extra time.
     
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  5. HeartandSoul

    HeartandSoul Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    The Garden State
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    I'm looking at the World Cup run as a whole, not solely on one game. Robben was embellishing throughout the tournament and that can't be denied. The Netherlands were also getting away with a lot of tackles and not gaining a suitable amount of infractions, I'm referring to the Australia and Chile games in particular.
     
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  6. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    That is the problem with Suarez. He gets fouled in the box and PK's are not given so Liverpool fans scream they are cheated. Then the referees accept that he changed so he responds to this by diving and receiving a penalty or 2 . Then the rest of the teams scream murder because Suarez once again cheated
    So a new cycle begins where Suarez is legitimely fouled in the box legit penalties are not given and so on

    Last year this cycle happened twice
    I think this is the same for Robben
     
  7. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Granted, I don't care if the neutral's didn't find the game pleasing to the eye. For me it was stressful and in the end we lost. And I appreciate fans like you that know well what the game is really all about because so many of my American friends are completely clueless.
     
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  8. Redshift

    Redshift Member+

    Dec 14, 2004
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Hermanos is a term of art. The Argies get it. It oozes sarcasm and irony, but it's still fundamentally true. We are a lot more similar than we are different. It's like an intense sibling rivalry.

    There's no question that logic says Germany. They have great incentives too: Being the first UEFA team to win on American soil after ending Brasil's home unbeaten streak in the most "emphatic, comprehensive, and incontestable" fashion imaginable, as I said yesterday. Equaling Italy in the number of Cups won. And avenging 2006 and 2010.

    But fantasy--that mysterious, intangible thing about football--to me says Argentina.
     
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  9. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

    Aug 18, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Even though it may sound terribly biased, my own view is that the only game Argentina didn't deserve to win was against Iran. While they struggled in the rest of the game you mentioned, in each of them, they deserved to come out the winner. As in their last game against Holland as well.

    Holland, on the other hand, also struggled to beat Australia, didn't deserve to beat Mexico really, and beat Costa Rica on penalties. Tonight, for 75 minutes, they were decidedly second best compared to Argentina. They came out of their shell afterwards and became more assertive, but it was really a gift that gave them their best scoring chances in injury time. They did more or less dominate the 1st overtime period but in the 2nd overtime period it was Argentina that could and should have scored on two separate occasions.
     
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  10. pablo85

    pablo85 Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    VGaal just said he would change Cillissen again, but vPersie was 'walking on his last legs', and he thought with Huntelaar Holland could finish it before the penalty shootout
     
  11. d3rd3vil

    d3rd3vil Member

    Jan 3, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Bad game yes. I will never understand matches without a single goal. No interest to play offensively.
     
  12. jogger

    jogger Member

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    #887 jogger, Jul 9, 2014
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2014
    I love Brazilian football but:

    Brasil, decime qué se siente
    tener en casa a tu papá.
    Te juro
    que aunque pasen los años,
    nunca nos vamos a olvidar...
    Que el Diego te gambeteó,
    que Cani te vacunó,
    que estás llorando desde Italia hasta hoy.
    A Messi lo vas a ver,
    la Copa nos va a traer,
    Maradona es más grande que Pelé..."


    ;)
     
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  13. jerrito

    jerrito Member+

    Jun 22, 2006
    America
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    One day you will win it!
     
  14. Edhardy

    Edhardy Member+

    Sep 4, 2013
    Nairobi, Kenya
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Well played by both sides, especially after what happened in the other semi it was always going to be conservative by both sides. I think over 120 minutes, Argentina were more 'deserving', took the initiative and looked the likelier to make something happen.
    Fair play to the Dutch, when the draw was made, I was convinced they'd be out in the group stage.

    As for Messi, I'd say alongside Mascherano and Vlaar was the best in normal time but Messi faded as the match wore on. Leaving those two as the MVPs.
     
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  15. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    If you say so, it really doesn't matter at this point.
     
  16. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    So do you guys think Germany will bunker?
     
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  17. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Shut up smart ass. :)
     
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  18. logout

    logout Member

    Jun 29, 2006
    Definitely, 6-4-0...prepare for that!
     
  19. DutchLion

    DutchLion Member

    Jun 12, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    The Germans won't bunker.
    If Argentina manages to keep the space between the lines small I wonder how the Germans will deal with it.

    Germany still favorite for the title.
     
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  20. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    I would like to commend the Argentine fans on the board, with one exception they were all good natured and put up with my Dutch nonsense. You are great ambassadors of the sport and until today it has been a fun week.
     
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  21. Redshift

    Redshift Member+

    Dec 14, 2004
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It's hard to say. I think a strong majority of Brasilians will support Germany. The arch-rivalry with Argentina will prevail for most. Plus, you're going to play in the Maraca. The Flamengo fans will turn out in droves if you use the FLAlemanha kit. What happened yesterday will not be forgotten, of course, but we have no real answer to it at the moment. It was our worst defeat in nearly 100 years in terms of goal difference. I would say it was the worst ever simply because it came in the WC, at home. That defeat will and should force a serious re-examination of Brasilian football.

    This may sap a lot of enthusism for the final from Brasilians. I would suspect that many local final ticket holders will want to make money on the exchange, and they won't particularly care whether they are selling them to Argies or Germans. Even if Germans and Brasilians are in the majority, the barra quilombera will be very loud and they will sing the whole time. They are used to invading the Maraca for the Copa Libertadores.

    We'll see how it plays out.
     
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  22. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Goes both ways
     
  23. DutchLion

    DutchLion Member

    Jun 12, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    2nd that.

    We will have other weeks of fun in the future VFish :thumbsup:
     
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  24. Skippysasquirrel

    May 11, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so did the germans' job just get that much easier?
     
  25. Mats Nygren

    Mats Nygren New Member

    Jul 9, 2014
    Club:
    IFK Goteborg
    I'm sure Holland can take great comfort in the fact that they never really did try to win this game, they tried "not to lose", that was the bravest thing they could come up with and the reason why they passed the ball between them for 80% of their possession ... I'm sure they are satisfied with that decision now after the game ...

    I could be as sarcastic about Argentina but unfortunately they somehow qualified for the final, don't know how that could happen with that ultra-defensive style ...
     

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