I've expanded my original post. It's clear that it's not a trend as the allocation hasn't changed over the past three tournaments.
but the uefa and conmebol have no interest in the money fifa gets, so they would increase thair marketing value even more.Of course conmebol would join the uefa, because everyone in the world knows that fifa is a bunch of corrupt banksters. the system of fifa is so dumb: why have the 7million members of the dfb (germany) as many votes in the Fifa as the 500(?) members of the fidschi island FA It would be very smart to kill the fifa for the sake of football
This is the problem. It seems that too many of you don't seem to have an understanding of numbers. You want to compare a country of 10.5 million to a country of 32,000. The big problem I have is not the comparison, but the fact that their are people in this world that believe it makes sense.
Conmebol are Grondona (ARG) + Marin (BRA). Just two tidbits concerning these two "celebrities". - On February 19, 2013, according to journalist Juka Kfouri, Marin would have stolen electricity from a neighbor that lives at the same building. - In 2014 Grondona´s son, Humberto, a FIFA official, admitted illegally selling on tickets for games at the World Cup in Brazil. Anything´s possible with such specimens.
Well, you said (I think it was you), that population wise, both UEFA and Conmebol were similar. Out of the 400k in SA, 200 are brazilians. I´m not trying to make a point, just showing that no matter which indicator anyone tries to use, it´s flawed. There´s just no way to compare both federations.
It all depends on what you're using the comparison for. If you're looking at the top to bottom strength of both confederations then you should be comparing the 10th place CONMEBOL team to the bottom 10% of UEFA teams. This however is pointless as CONMEBOL has no pure minnows (San Marino, Faroes etc). If you're comparing the current allocations then you should be comparing CONMEBOL's 5th and 6th teams against 13 and 14 in UEFA. If you're comparing based on both confederations having equal representation at a tournament (which I believe was proposed earlier in the thread) then comparing 10th to 10th is valid.
Couldn´t have said it better. They would have a hard time selling their decision to the fan base, but these are great minds we are talking of
Sweden never failed on group stage when they qualified in the last 20 years. Sweden-Paraguay: 1-0 in 2006 Sweden round 16 Paraguay 3rd of group B Sweden bronze medal in 1994 after already 1 final and 2 other semi-finals; 2 quarter-finals, there is absolutely no way Paraguay is better. Not to mention everybody talked about Ibrahimovic missing world cup when there ain't much people missing Paraguay....be honest.
I´m not convinced regarding the rest but you make a valid claim here. The WC is as much about stars, as it is about countries.
Yes, I agree fully, no method can work. That is why I think it's wiser to compare countries and not confederations. I mean this thread isn't designed that way, and that is why I just wanted to point out some flaws. Conmebol is basically Brazil + Argentina, than good teams cycling in power between Chile, Colombia, Uruguay and Paraguay. Uefa is basically Italy + Germany + Spain + Holland + France, than good teams cycling in power between England, Portugal, Croatia, Belgium, Sweden and Czech Republic/Turkey.
As it's been said several times, let's do 8 intercontinental play-offs. 9 UEFA squads in world cup. 8 play-offs teams; france, iceland, romania, portugal, greece, ukraine, sweden, croatia bring us opponents, we'll see how many squads we'll have in world cup I reckon we'll have 14-15 and not 13!
France missed 90 and 94 england missed 94 portugal missed 98 holland missed 02 spain, italia, germany both faced play-offs in the 5 last campaigns. do you sincerely think FIFA would take the risk nowadays to have world cup without these top european nations?
The WC is bigger than any country or confederation. Of course it would suffer. But I don´t see many of those countries missing a qualification at the same time.
...it's not about ratio, it's about having the best teams in world cup unless you want a festival and not a competition? there are 13 uefa squads better than the 7th 8th 9th and 10th commebol squads, that's it. sweden alone takes both ecuador, paraguay, peru, venezuela and bolivia and it's even not a top 7 UEFA
Unfortunately World Cup is more "festival" based like the Olympics. Which is why the EURO CUP as a whole is more prestigious. There are no free rides in EURO CUP.
france and england missed world cup at the same time. portugal and france have been in play offs at the same time as well and several times! there would be 2 teams among them out of world cup on regular basis
You could add Argentina and make it 3 (we miraculously qualified for 2010 & 94). And I wouldn´t regard England higher than Uruguay, who has missed several in recent history. My point being, you can´t guarantee spots based on history or alleged strenght. But as I said before, I rather have quality over quantity, and would only accept more slots for AFC and CAF if the overall number of participants is raised.