Without Tim, the score would be around 10-1

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  1. Plxix

    Plxix BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 13, 2006
    Many of you guys don't take into consideration that without Howard's superman performance, we would have been blow to bits, and an embarrassment on the world stage.

    Our defense was torn to shreds. The midfield was overrun yet again. The offense lacked.

    It's OK to think objectively.
     
  2. uncchamps2012

    uncchamps2012 Member

    Jul 9, 2011
    Tim Howard is the USA goalkeeper. That's reality, not a hypothesis. He played out of his mind,yes. But, that is indeed what happened. 10-1 is a hypothesis about a situation that did not take place.
     
  3. joejonbob

    joejonbob Member

    Jun 3, 2014
    Club:
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    Agreed, so let us put it another way. In terms that actually happened.

    Tim Howard set the record for number of saves in a world cup game since the stat started getting recorded in 1966 because "Our defense was torn to shreds. The midfield was overrun yet again. The offense lacked. "
     
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  4. SOCCERMARINE

    SOCCERMARINE Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    does anyone know the shots and shots on target from both teams?
     
  5. sweethome_bama

    Jul 21, 2013
    Orange County
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pretty sure Belgium falls back after going up 5-0. You are over exaggerating a bit
     
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  6. KennyWoo

    KennyWoo Member

    May 21, 2007
    Pasadena, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What if Lukaku started and Howard wasn't the USA goalkeeper? 100-0 at the half?
     
  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    How great was Howard's performance compared to others in this WC or in World Cup history overall?
     
  8. Luis Suarez

    Luis Suarez Member

    Jul 14, 2013
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you, Captain Obvious. We salute you.
     
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  9. NJallstars

    NJallstars Member

    Jul 1, 2014
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    I think it would have been more along the lines of 4-0 in regulation. It was really more a story of him doing his job tonight time and time again. In reality though, only 3-4 of the Belgian shots were threatening. It kind of showed why they have scored so little this whole tournament. Very poor finishing by them.

    He was clearly MOTM. One could argue though that he shouldn't have committed before the Lukaku shot. It's something he tends to do. When it works everyone loves him and you think nobody could be better. When it doesn't he lets in a goal that most respected keepers would save.
     
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  10. Twix1138

    Twix1138 Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Is it that Tim Howard saved the USA from losing 10-1, or Belgium not being able to finish their chances and therefore only winning by one goal? There is a difference between the two.
     
  11. Kendetta

    Kendetta Member

    Jun 26, 2014
    WA State
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Total shots: USA 14 Belgium 38
    Shots on goal USA 9 Belgium 27

    Yea, twenty seven.
     
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  12. 00Kevin

    00Kevin Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    SoCal
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. steve smith

    steve smith New Member

    Jul 1, 2014
    If wondo scored it would have been 10-2
     
  14. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Deserves all the adulation and a book deal
     
  15. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Half of them were from Falliani, so there wasn't any real threat.
     
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  16. futbol in Miami

    Colombia
    Sep 11, 2011
    Miami
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    indeed he had an amazing game. amd for the record books no less.

    and heres a curiosity of mine: does anyone know who he switched shirts with? in the MOTM pic, he had an inverted Belgium shirt on. im wondering from who.
     
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  17. 00Kevin

    00Kevin Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    SoCal
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lukaku, the game winning goal scorer, he was wearing Howard's jersey during the end game interviews
     
  18. man_in_the_middle

    May 2, 2008
    10-0? Not a chance, when a team goes up by a goal or two they tend to relax a bit. Please see extra time.

    But Tim performance can't be understated even in defeat.
     
  19. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    No. Howard was very busy but didn't have to make jaw-dropping saves. His was an excellent performance in the volume of saves needed to be made rather than in stopping unstoppable shots.
     
  20. morange92

    morange92 Member+

    Jan 30, 2012
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As great as Tim's performance was, it would not have been 10-1 without him. Guzan is a pretty good keeper in his own right, and frankly (not to downplay Howard's performance or anything) a lot of those saves came from Belgium shots that went right at him (or at least were very saveable). He had some great saves as well but the thread title is a little over exaggerating.
     
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  21. gmonn

    gmonn Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    I think it was Lukaku...
     
  22. Cubanlix63

    Cubanlix63 Member+

    AFC Ajax
    Feb 19, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    You will concede a lot of goals if you play without a GK.
     
  23. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    Not to downplay Howard's performance - it was great.

    Notice how Belgium was always shooting low.

    If a couple had been lifted - there would have been no extra time.
     
  24. dannd23

    dannd23 Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    Some people are really underestimating just how great Guzan is.
     
  25. Chastaen

    Chastaen Member+

    Alavés
    Jul 9, 2004
    Winnipeg
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Wondo had better control on one shot there would have been no extra time for Belgium to sccore in at all.

    That's how this game always works out.
     

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