Pre-match: (2014.06.19) 2014 FIFA World Cup - Group C, MD2 : Japan vs Greece

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Whispered11, Jun 15, 2014.

  1. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    1 hour 30 minutes.
     
  2. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    well, this scenario looks a bit realistic to achieve I think:
    - Japan beats Greece 2-0 (GD moves to +1)
    - beats Colombia 2-1, or any result but it has to be a win (GD moves to +2)
    CIV beats Greece 1-0, or draws, or loses (GD moves to +1)

    Japan gets out.
     
  3. scotch17

    scotch17 Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    Entebbe
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    but in that scenario, colombia advances.
    It takes a lot of unlikely events for colombia to not advance at this point.
    CIV, Japan, and Greece are effectively fighting for 2nd right now... but all 3 at least control their own destiny for the time being
     
  4. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    ah sir, my scenario was exactly about CIV not advancing being a little bit realistic. But anything can happen
     
  5. scotch17

    scotch17 Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    Entebbe
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    yea i know, just pointing out the post you were replying to isabout colombia not advancing
     
  6. leerooney

    leerooney Member

    May 8, 2014
    Hanoi
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    LINE-UP: Kawashima, Uchida, Honda, Nagatomo, Okazaki, Okubo, Konno, Yamaguchi, Hasebe (c), Osako, Yoshida

    LINE-UP: Karnezis, Maniatis, Manolas, Samaras, Kone, Mitroglou, Torosidis, Fetfazidis, Sokratis, Cholevas, Katsouranis (c)

    Yes. Bench Kagawa and start with Okubo. That's what I wanted to see.
     
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  7. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    haha What the ******** is this and Osako in attack again?


    haha


    So who is going to be AML.Okazaki?


    Zaccheroni experimenting in second game I dont even
     
  8. chelseaz10

    chelseaz10 Member

    Jun 14, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Wtf is this line up. I doubt Japan can play their passing game with Okubo. Yes, Kagawa played bad but if you gonna bench kagawa put in Kiyotake. And Osako starting AGAIN?
     
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  9. Xenos

    Xenos Member

    Aug 9, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Good luck against greece today boys, secure the win. They shouldn't be that hard to beat.

    Ganbatte! (from your BSK neighbour)
     
  10. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    wtf?
    There is no experiment whatsoever.
    Kagawa is rightfully dropped for Okubo, and Morishige is out for Konno.
    Osako seems preferred to Kakitani.

    btw for those wondering why not Kiyo or Saito, pretty sure it's because Okubo is a goalscorer and they are not. It's still a bit of a risk of course as he isn't properly a winger but still, I can see the idea
     
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  11. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Zac putting in 3 strikers + Honda

    To counter the Greeks in set pieces he put in mr Konno as well.


    1. Japan wont get the goal

    2. Japan will score plenty

    3. Japan will outplay and out pass the Greeeks


    He can see it. I however cannot
     
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  12. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan

    Okubo on left together with Osako and Okazaki is not experimenting?

    Give me a break Dax


    I aint saying it wont work. In fact he has balls I give him that. This is 3 strikers two made into inner strikers / wanna be wingers

    Honda to hold it all together with the midfield and than two "destructurs" with some skill on the ball in shape of Hasebe + Yamaguchi

    I will definitely keep watch how this will work and how they will be able to build attacks


    If Honda has a poor game or Greeks isolate him you better pray to the gods...
     
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  13. chelseaz10

    chelseaz10 Member

    Jun 14, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    So what if there is 3 striker in the game. They won't score because there only one attacking midfielder. Who will feed them the ball and control the attack?
     
  14. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    the heck are you talking about?
    4-2-3-1
    Osako is the striker as usual. Okazaki is in his usual place.
    Where is the experiment? Okubo playing in Kagawa's place is the experiment?

    edit: ok seen your edit, now I understand what you mean. We'll see, but I can't blame him.
     
  15. SkyPiercer

    SkyPiercer Member

    Jan 24, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Algeria
    Nice, five players from the starting 11 of 2010, Osako should have been benched too, let's hope he wakes up and does well tonight.

    This is really no time for calculations, they must win this game and worry later about Colombia.
     
  16. scotch17

    scotch17 Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    Entebbe
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    i dont mind okubo... not even konno (makes sense w/mori & yoshi carrying yellow cards)
    But how in hell can osako be going out there again?
    Should be some monster super subs with kagawa and kaki though
     
  17. chelseaz10

    chelseaz10 Member

    Jun 14, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    The experiment is there's only one attacking midfield. Yeh I know okubo play in Kagawa position but he can never do it like Kagawa. Okubo is similar to Okazaki. Usually it's 2 attacking midfielder and one striker on the right.
     
  18. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan

    Yes Okubo playing in Kagawas place is the experiment. Very different type of player and very different JNT game just from this one switch Kagawa is next to Honda one of the two who is bringing balls from the midfield into attack making sure transition works as planed
     
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  19. leerooney

    leerooney Member

    May 8, 2014
    Hanoi
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    We've got Hasebe and Yamaguchi for those stuff. Besides, we don't need one more AMF if he's dreadful like Kagawa in the last match.
     
  20. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    yes, I understand what you mean but Kagawa has been a disaster and is deservedly benched. Neither Kiyotake nor Saito are exactly goalscorers. Yes, they may feed balls but that alone may not be enough.
    Basically it's the most offensive formation possible. Besides you have to take into account tracking back too

    Yes we might be eaten alive on counters but at least hey it's ballsy, haha
     
  21. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    like I said I have no idea how this will work against the Greeks especially just having like 30 minutes to think about it. It may work for all I know but quickly thinking about it, this is some seriously different set up and it may not work at all when Greeks park their buss or destroy the midfield play

    So this is experimenting


    Also Konno because of Yellow cards may be logical as well.


    Idk what to think of this line up to be honest. To be fair I dont like the experiment bit, I also think Kagawa's factor and his playmaking will be missing, but I know Okubo will give his all and work for the team a lot more.
    Also Konno factor worries me as well


    All and all I hope they kick the shit out of them and for all I care they can play two goalkeepers in the line up if thats the way
     
  22. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    unfortunately at this moment Kagawa is a dead weight at best =(
     
  23. YLbowman

    YLbowman Member

    Aug 15, 2011
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    This lineup seems fine. I'd switch out Osako for Kakitani and Konno for Morishige. Why was Konno put in...?
     
  24. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Arent you the one not jumping to quick conclusions Dax?

    Kagawa was really crappy last game, but the entire team was basically in some cramp state
     
  25. scotch17

    scotch17 Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    Entebbe
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Okubo is basically a converted striker as you point out.
    But even so, i think hes proved hell put in more defensive work than kagawa. Its definitely a more "direct" approach though
    Assuming kagawa comes in around 65 when okubo has ran himself and several greek defenders into the ground... it could be intefesting
    This seems like a nuanced return to okada ball though
    Hope osako is ready
     
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