Pre-match: USA vs Portugal, June 22nd

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  1. HarutKarapetyan

    Jul 17, 2012
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    For the USA, that's hard to do when your main outlet and holdup man is injured, your creative guy can't breathe due to a broken nose, your ball hog is having a horror show of a game, your starting center back is having hammy issues at the half, your box to box midfielder is carrying a couple knocks and your bench options are limited.

    In spite of the win, the first point and the last point above are the most damaging to our chances of moving forward. Jozy had become essential in absorbing pressure, being an outlet and drawing defenders which had numerous positive follow-on effects for our team. I don't see anybody on the team that even comes close to him in that regard.
     
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  2. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The longer the news takes for Altidore, the more I worry
     
  3. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. JAVez1983

    JAVez1983 Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    Tampa
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The problem with this is while Beckerman did an outstanding job and made me eat crow his game matches up well to Ghana...Ghana will try to out run you with the ball and being a good 1v1 defender allowed Beckerman to play strong, while Portugal will out pass you with the ball and are much smarter and accurate players. I've seen Beckerman look like a deer in headlights in the middle of a passing war. He is not quick enough for that and will most likely be bypassed.
     
  5. jec1

    jec1 Member

    Sporting Clube de Portugal
    Portugal
    Aug 27, 2004
    Los Angeles ATM
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Looks more likely that Neto/Veloso will replace Pepe/Coentrao for Portugal. Both viable options. Coentrao is a huge loss and I just hope Veloso is mentally prepared.

    Good luck to both teams!
     
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  6. jec1

    jec1 Member

    Sporting Clube de Portugal
    Portugal
    Aug 27, 2004
    Los Angeles ATM
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Personally I love the guy. If this were hockey, he'd be an enforcer. The guy is the Scott Stevens of futebol.
     
  7. HarutKarapetyan

    Jul 17, 2012
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I might also add the work Jozy did in previous matches of helping our left back and JJ contain passing lanes and movement on the left side. I think our best bet is Wondo. He can be a nuisance and is ok at being at outlet. It's not necessarily what we brought him for or what he excels at but, of our remaining players, he checks off the most boxes.
     
  8. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    I was looking at it from the Portuguese side of things, but I agree. And I would certainly prefer to be the team who has the luxury of being able to play for a draw. Neither team will be 100 percent and yesterday's results could each be a harbinger or completely misleading. I do know that I have very little confidence Portugal will get the result it needs if only because of the weakened defense and how things went for each side in the openers. Luck (or whatever you want to call it) was very much against Portugal and for the U.S. yesterday and that factor tends to favor or work against teams throughout a tournament.
     
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  9. cformusic

    cformusic Member

    Jun 5, 2014
    BKNY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    i think you can realistically forget about Altidore at this point. at least for the Portugal game..probably for much longer
     
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  10. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I'm actually ok with Veloso at LB..he has skill and a great cross so can support well..and once Pepe gets back he can cover for Veloso's lack of pace.

    He might get dribbled by a quick winger or attacker though...
     
  11. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    Any update yet on Jozy?

    I'd assumed he'll miss this game, but praying to have him back for the Germany game.
     
  12. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    This.

    Portugal are going to be out for blood on Sunday. They have something to prove and will go all out to get a result.

    Our team will need to hit them hard first--if not, like mentioend above, Ronaldo if in right form can win it all himself.
     
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  13. jec1

    jec1 Member

    Sporting Clube de Portugal
    Portugal
    Aug 27, 2004
    Los Angeles ATM
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    How dumb does Bento look now not bringing Antunes. Just stupid.

    As for Jozy, he is done. Pulling a Hamstring is serious.
     
  14. Uncle Sam Malone's Army

    May 23, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I cringe when I hear wondo is our best option
     
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  15. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    Here's my thing: I would much rather have a more talented and experienced player at their second or third best position than a weaker player at their preferred spot. Obviously, I'm not saying put a talented defender at striker, but also don't start a guy at LB just because that's his position when you've got a guy like Veloso who has played there and is unquestionably a more competent player at this level.

    I have zero confidence Bento will do anything other than play it safe, which means he's just begging to lose/draw a must-win match. It's time for Eduardo, Carvalho, Neto, Rafa/Vierinha, etc. This team is in desperate need for urgency at this point.
     
  16. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Portugals got injuries to some of their best players, we got injuries to some of our best players. Jozy is a big part of our machine, we will have to adapt as well, but I think Bacon/Wondo are up for it
     
  17. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    slight difference between altidore and Fabio coentrao man.

    Coentraos a world class player, one of the 4/5 Portugal have. big big blow. worse than losing 4-0
     
  18. jec1

    jec1 Member

    Sporting Clube de Portugal
    Portugal
    Aug 27, 2004
    Los Angeles ATM
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Agreed. Portugal have depth. Guys like Rafael/Vieirinha are sparkplugs and Neto is pure solid. LB is gonna be tricky, Veloso has to be on his game. I'd be shocked if Eduardo starts.
     
  19. Cookham

    Cookham Member

    Jun 5, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well he's doing the equivalent of flying from Maine to Louisiana to be checked out. It's going to take time.
     
  20. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    Yeah, I think it is as demoralizing as anything that happened to Portugal yesterday. Pepe acted a fool and got what you'd expect for that, but Coentrao busting his ass and having only an injury to show for it is bound to make you consider that it's just not your tournament. Almeida's injury, on the other hand, is probably a blessing in disguise. If only he were half the player in meaningful matches he is in friendlies.
     
  21. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    And to think Adu used to play with him at Benfica.
     
  22. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And DiMaria.
     
  23. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sucks but what other option do we have. With one striker, the striker has to be able to hold the ball till the midfield can come in. A false 9 depends heavily on interchange and runs from the attack midfield whcich we dont have. AJ wasnt able to hold up play and bang it out. Dempsey drops into the midfield way to much to start him by himself.
     
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  24. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very true . . . but the USA have 1 (Howard), maybe 2 (Bradley . . . except last night) such players. So Portugal's loss really hasn't hurt them as much as losing Jozy hurts the USA.
     
  25. CK

    CK Member

    Jul 11, 2005
    Southeast
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gotta love Brooks's contributions. I think our best setup has GCam, Brooks, and Besler in the back.

    ---------------Howard--------------
    ---Cam---Brooks---Besler--------
    -----------------------------Fabian-
    ----------Bradley--Jones----------
    --Zusi---------------------Bedoya-
    --------Demps-----AJ--------------

    We need wing play and some possession badly. I hope switching back to the old 4-4-2 can give us what we've been missing.
     

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