I truly believe that Bobby has a vision problem that prevents him from handling long shots and crosses. He just doesn't seem to react well. Close in he is good.
Perhaps you're not familiar with the TV show called "The Simpsons." One of the characters, Groundskeeper Wille, once referred to the French as "Cheese-eating surrender monkeys." That was what the referece was about, and it had nothing to do with an unfortunate, yet purely coincidental connection that I later realized. I apologize if anyone was offended, but that hadn't crossed my mind.
One game (or even two) is not a season, so I'm not ready to panic yet. The offense had too many quality shots for me to be too concerned about it yet. Agree with the worries about Shuttleworth. If he wasn't loud enough for Dorman to hear then it's on him. On the other hand if he was then it's all on Dorman (which someone mentioned earlier). Even more to the point, I'm not sure he should have been coming out for the cross (it was a long way out with a bunch of bodies in the way. First is still better than second (or last)! Brad commented during the match that perhaps Montreal and RBNY have found a way to defend the Revs attack. Montreal may have, but RBNY was just fortunate that we weren't wearing our finishing boots.
From the postgame quotes, Dorman said that the goal was on him and he was trying to get out of the way but just ended up getting in the way in the process.
Not panicking. Just frustrated by that loss. We went through a stretch where we couldn't score. Then had a 7 game stretch where we averaged almost 3 a game. Now back to can't score. Not good. Not surprising. He's never been the type to blame others.
I don't know how you can blame Dorman on the first goal. I don't know what they tell professionals, but when I work with young keepers, I always tell them not to come for a ball if you have to make a long run through a crowd to get to it, as there's too big a chance that you won't get to the ball cleanly. Plus, in watching the replay, I can't say for sure obviously, but had Dorman not been there, I still don't think Shuttleworth would have gotten there, as the ball would have been way too high at the spot where the line Shuttleworth was running would have intersected with the line the ball took. It's even possible Dorman might have thought he was out of the way, expecting Bobby to be running behind where Andy was standing. Shuttleworth should have stayed home and told his defense to clear it, rather than call them off it, which made it a free header into an open goal. I'd have to wonder if that's him trying to be a good veteran team guy, and take the blame and deflect some pressure from a young keeper. We'll never know, but I'd love to hear how the coaches break down the goal behind closed doors. I don't care if we had Lev Yashin in his prime, I'd still want Dorman and Soares in there. I don't get how some people could rate Caldwell above Dorman, from what we've seen this season, as well as going by how Caldwell was replaced late in the season last year as well. As for Soares, I was never that impressed by McCarthy, but I agree that Soares wasn't not great either the past 2 season, but I think he's been pretty good this season. Hasn't Rowe pretty much been in a state of recovering from injury and getting his fitness back in all his appearances so far? Also, I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that he had a very good game before his last hamstring injury. He should be getting back into full game shape soon, but I think it's a bit harsh to say he's done nothing this year. I think Kobayashi is decent, I like him, but I definitely rate Rowe higher than him. Well, I am no fan of Tierney, but you'd have to say that offensively, his role is to cross rather than get off shots, though he did get one nice shot off from the right side that I recall. But I'd be curious to see the shot charts in general for games he's played, as I would think teams would target his side as the weak side of the defense. I feel like I see Deigo coming back to help double a player Tierney is on far more than I see that happen for Farrell. Farrell is our best outside back, so no matter who we put on the outside, I'd expect the side opposite Farrell is to be attacked more, but as I think Tierney is poor defensively, I wonder if he's targeted more than another back would be. You'd have to look over a number of games though, as it also would depend heavily on if the opponent had a preferred side to attack on as well.
However both goals last night came from free kicks that Farrell gave up on his side. Tierney had nothing to do with either of them. And both fullbacks came very close to scoring themselves.
No disagreement on his role, but the shot chart kinda backs up the feeling I had watching that game. Pretty much all of our attacks seemed to come from the other side.
In watching the replay, I think you are right. Bobby looks a little tentative coming out. The first time seeing it, all I saw was that Dorman was the only one in his way. To be honest, I didn't hear Bobby calling for it, and didn't see him calling for it on the replay. I think Bobby might have misjudged the flight of the ball (looking in to the sun?), and got caught in no man's land. http://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/ma...ion-vs-new-york-red-bulls/details/video/18254
Yeah, the Mutts keeper had a great day, and he made several key saves. With any luck, at least a couple of them would have gone in, including Tyranny's shot with his "great left peg." The rule of thumb for keepers is to come out for a cross only if you know you can get to it. Even if Dorman wasn't there, it looked like a 50-50 chance that he might not have got there before the attacker. When in doubt, he needs to stay on his line. It's a split-second decision, but any keeper who takes risks is going to get burned at some point.
That's not an unreasonable comment, but it seemed like every shot we took was right at the guy. He didn't have to work for most of his saves.
Dorman is being noble. That's the keepers fault. Your guy has to have time to change momentum and Bobby didn't allow for that. Keeper has the forward view to make that judgement. My keeper coach was old school and he taught me that if I made the call I better be prepared to destroy everyone in my path to get my hands on it. You can apologize after you have control of the ball.
Ready for our annual mid season swoon. By August, we will be back fighting for the last playoff spot where we belong.
Yes, Dorman was being a team guy and noble. Here is another part of his quote: "I’m not 100 percent sure if he was going to come out for the ball..." Translation: He had absolutely no business coming out for that ball so I was moving over to try to head it away. He surprised the heck out of me...
Half of our swoon has already occurred and the other half will occur during the break! Bring on the coachless union!
If you look at where Alexander headed it from, it's not that far - and Shuttleworth would have taken it higher, so it wouldn't have even been that far. And, after Shuttleworth and Dorman took each other out, there was basically no one between Alexander and the open goal - so there wasn't that much traffic in that line. All that said, a keeper has to make an instant decision and maybe that was an %80 chance where the %20 happened. The other thing is that Dorman was sort of stumbling back towards Shuttleworth. I couldn't tell for sure from replaying the replays, but I think Alexander shoved him back and, being off-balance, wasn't able to gather himself to clear out of the way. Let's not forget that all goalkeepers, even the beloved Reis, give up some real head-scratchers from time to time. Those saying that we can't win with Shuttleworth are way off base. Overall, he's been darn good this season.
First, no one is saying we can't win with Bobby. We're just saying that we're not going to win silverware with him as the #1. Secondly, yes, Reis had some head scratchers from time to time. Bobby does it much more often than that. That's two straight games where he is at blame for a goal. He just seems to not be able to hold onto a shot, it's amazing for a keeper.
after two sub par games I think its time to switch. Maybe it sends a message to Bobby that every game counts if you want to keep your job