Re: Just my opinions, Bozo It was a lot closer than 1.4 mil. I would believe that if they hadn't let golf survive. They let them off the hook b/c they covered operating costs. Support for the scholarships is from the general fund. In fact, I really don't remember that being an issue at all. But even if we used your numbers, they could've kept the men's sports for 10% of the budget and some football/basketball cuts - why didn't they? Remember these are the same guys who came up with the bait and switch tuition plan. Are you sure you weren't a Sigma Chi?
Well, he was sick all day, the poor guy. He ususally is very active and crawling all over the place. Yesterday, he just sat there and wimpered. That is the part about being a Dad I really hate, watching him when he is sick. We let him sleep with us (we allow him when he is sick) and he slept most of the night. I just kept waking up because I was concerned about him. Also, although only 9 months old, he manages to push my wife and I to our respective edges of the bed and sleep perpendicular to us. He woke me up in the morning by accidentally kicking me in the eye when stretching. OK – I am now one of those annoying Dads who turn every conversation into a talk about my son. He did watch the Olympics with us. He is not too thrilled with the basketball team, though he blames it on them not drinking enough formula, and not Title IX (Thank you I’ll be here all week).
Re: Just my opinions, Bozo Not "my" numbers ... they're the first numbers that came up in a Lexis-Nexis search, and I think they're a lot more trustworthy than yours. If the school could've cut $300,000 in football and basketball expenses without affecting revenues, I'm sure it would have. Still, that would have left them $1.1 million in the hole. Yes, also increasingly confident that you are a lying putz.
Sad...very sad The WUSA forum has come down to this. Speaking of bars and pi$$ing time away...which way to the bar?
I was an annoying Dad before I was a Dad... I think it is a good idea to let a small, sick child sleep with you, for safety reasons. Same with cats, but the way. My kids like the perpedicular approach too. They plant their feet in your back and head out into the night. Miami of Ohio is a quality school with a lovely campus and something of a sports cachet, the producer of great coaches and all that. A school like this CAN'T cut 10 per cent of the budget for football or men's basketball without very dire consequences. Recruiting will die on the vine, as will alumni money. They can't do it and keep the national visibility that has been hard to get. Even if they do, what happens in 5 years when the percentage of females enrolled has increased? Cut another 10 per cent? Of what? A Division II program or close to it by that time. There is a reason Miami of Ohio is a little bit famous and Kent State-a good school-is not. Football.
Re: Just my opinions, Bozo I forgot what sort of thread this is. I think that you are a troll and I've been on the line too long. Goodbye.
Thomas, we fall on differert sides on this one. While I will certainly recognize that there are serious problems with Title IX enforcement, I also believe that many of the wounds are self inflicted. Miami could've easily raised the money to keep the sports, but chose not to. I only wish that they'd fought as hard on this as they did when they were forced to change their name to the Chickenhawks. When there are other schools in Ohio that have dealt successfully with this, a school with the resources and active alumni of Miami should do at least as well. Btw, they can't use private air travel anymore, will everything go straight to hell? I wonder if I'll lose my subscription to "The Miamian"?
Re: What is the future of the WUSA? Good question. It's a relatively young boat as rowers tend to come into their best in their late 20s and early 30s. Eight of the nine came through the collegiate ranks after the NCAA sanctioned women's rowing as a varsity sport in 1997. They are: Washington -- Mary Whipple 5/10/80 5'3" 105 Sacramento, Calif. Princeton -- Lianne Nelson 6/15/72 5'10" 155 Seattle, Wash. won four collegiate championships at Princeton before rowing was an NCAA sanctioned sport. Graduated 1995. Washington -- Anna Mickelson 3/21/80 6'0" 175 Bellevue, Wash. Cal -- Laurel Korholz 6/10/70 6'2" 170 La Jolla, Calif. Radcliffe -- Caryn Davies 4/14/82 6'4" 185 Ithaca, N.Y. San Diego -- Alison Cox 6/5/79 6'0" 182 Turlock, Calif. Cal -- Megan Dirkmaat 5/3/76 6'1" 175 San Jose, Calif. Stanford -- Sam Magee 7/10/83 6'0" 181 Simsbury, Conn. Michigan -- Kate Johnson 12/18/78 5'10" 165 Portland, Ore.
Re: What is the future of the WUSA? Wow, yes ... they're very young, and many are from scholarship-giving institutions. Kate Johnson must be one of the first rowers that Michigan ever recruited. Thx for doing the checking.
Re: What is the future of the WUSA? Just further proof that Title IX is killing gymnastics in the United States.
Please, they aren't burning up the world as it is. This is a red herring. You know it. The studies have shown that it is not that big of a correlation.
Foudy moment for Flannigas http://www.uniroyal.com/promo/2004sweeps.html?source=print/ Win an afternoon with Julie Foudy!! Perfect for Flannigas! An opportunity to finally get out all that pent in love from afar.
USA 21 21 15 57 CHN 22 14 10 46 RUS 7 13 16 36 AUS 12 8 12 32 GER 10 9 12 31 JPN 13 6 7 26 FRA 8 8 7 23 ITA 7 6 7 20 57 and counting. No decline yet in sight.
Code: [font=Courier New]Country...G..S..B..Total [/font] [font=Courier New]USA.......28 32 24 84[/font] [font=Courier New]Russia....15 21 24 60[/font] [font=Courier New]China.....25 17 12 54[/font] [font=Courier New]Australia.16 11 16 43[/font] [font=Courier New]Germany...12 13 15 40[/font]
As of the other day, my unofficial count had 39 men's medals and 39 women's medals. God, what a disaster this has been for the US.
Got to 90!!!! Code: [font=Courier New]Rank.Nation........G..S..B..Total[/font] [font=Courier New]1....United.States.29.34.27.90[/font] [font=Courier New]2....Russia........17.23.28.68[/font] [font=Courier New]3....China.........27.17.13.57[/font] [font=Courier New]4....Australia.....17.11.16.44[/font] [font=Courier New]5....Germany.......12.14.18.44[/font] Woo-Hooo!
Can we get 7 or 8 medals in the last two days? If so, I'd say that renders the London Financial Times and Our Boy pretty much irrelevant.
Hey, Thomas! Did you see the news about wrestling? You know, the sport we don't dominate in, but have three guys in gold-medal matches. The sport where our freestyle team is something like 15-2 so far. This team could go down as the best Olympic team for us ever. We realistically have a chance at five golds from seven weights. Suck on that.
You'd have gone 7-for-7 if it wasn't for Title IX. How about these other nuggets: TF:"NBC will lose money on the Olympics. I repeat. NBC will lose money on the Olympics, so please don't claim that this will add value to the shareholders."[link] Reality:From Martzke's column on Friday: For Athens, NBC is 9% ahead of the 14.5 rating guaranteed most advertisers. That has enabled NBC to sell time it had been withholding in case it needed to offer make-goods, and its projected profit on Athens has risen from $50 million to $60 million-$70 million. [link] TF:"Wait 'til you see how our Men's Olympic Team gets slaughtered in Athens with men's wrestling, swimming, boxing, gymnastics and more slashed to the bone. Title IX is great for the Chinese Olympic team, just like it is a great thing for El Tri." [link] Reality: Wrestling, swimming and gymnastics seem to have done fine. Well, the boxing team hasn't done that well. I guess that means you're spot-on. I guess "and more" can be a catch-all for "anything we didn't do well in." TF:"Title IX is death for our men's Olympic team because the sports that gets cut generally are Olympic sports and the sports that get added are very often sports that are not in the Olympics." [link] Reality: And yet, there we are, on top of the medal count. Huh. That's odd. TF:"WUSA will survive because of corporate subsidies." [link] Reality: WUSA died because it couldn't get corporate subsidies. There's more but it'll keep for another day.
Seems like this is a bit deceptive ... aren't there more possible medals for men than women? That would imply that if both genders earn equal medal totals, the men are less successful than the women. I found the following tracker from Sydney. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2000/medal_tracker/current/countryathletes/US-M.html I count 49 men's medals (including basketball, which had been incorrectly merged with baseball) and 40 women's medals. That doesn't total to 97, though ... not sure what SI did with non-segregated events.
I had problems figuring out what to do with the mixed-team events either, and I only got 95 medals, so I don't know. There might very well be more possible men's medals than women's medals. So per available opportunity, yeah, the men might overall be considered less successful. But you could make the case that the men face stiffer competition. After all, they're not competing against girls.