Pre/PBP/Post: Colorado Rapids v. Houston Dynamo, Sunday, June 1

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by newtex, May 27, 2014.

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Result?

Poll closed Jun 2, 2014.
  1. Dynamo win

    4 vote(s)
    21.1%
  2. Dynamo tie

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Dynamo lose

    4 vote(s)
    21.1%
  4. My prediction? Pain.

    11 vote(s)
    57.9%
  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Who: Colorado Rapids v. Houston Dynamo
    When: Sunday, June 1 @ 7:00 pm CDT
    Where: Dick's Sporting Goods Park; Commerce City, CO
    Records: Colorado Rapids (5-4-3) 3rd place in the WEST
    Houston Dynamo (5-7-2) 4th place in the EAST
    TV: CSN-H+
    Radio: 1560/850

    This is the 15th game of the year and the 8th road game.

    The Dynamo and Rapids drew, 1-1, on April 28 of 2013 in the most recent meeting. That game was here in Houston. The last game out in Colorado was a 2-0 win for the Rapids in the regular season finale of 2012. The Dynamo played mostly reserves in that game.

    Colorado's most recent game was a 4-1 draw at home against Montreal on Saturday, May 24. The Rapids are 3-2-1 in home games so far this year with a +3 g.d. Colorado is 2-2-1 in their last five games overall with 7 goals scored and 6 allowed. Their next game after facing Houston is on Wednesday, June 4, when they host Chicago. After that they play FCD away on June 7.

    The Dynamo are 1-5-1 on the road with 5 goals scored and 14 allowed. Houston is 2-3-0 in the last five games scoring 4 in those games while allowing 10. The Dynamo return home for a game on June 6 against Kansas City in league play and then host an Open Cup game on June 11 before the World Cup break.
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Dynamo @ Rapids, all-time:

    04/29/06 COR 0-1 HOU
    07/26/06 COR 1-0 HOU
    05/05/07 COR 1-3 HOU
    08/11/07 COR 1-0 HOU
    06/21/08 COR 0-0 HOU
    10/04/08 COR 1-3 HOU
    08/30/09 COR 1-0 HOU
    08/28/10 COR 3-0 HOU
    07/03/11 COR 0-0 HOU
    10/27/12 COR 2-0 HOU

    That's 3-5-2 with 7 goals scored and 10 allowed.

    Just on a personal note, I think I've seen 4 Dynamo games in Colorado. I've never seen us score a goal.
     
  3. bford

    bford Member

    Houston Dynamo, Everton, USMNT
    Nov 30, 2004
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How bad can we play this game?
     
  4. Heft

    Heft BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Thin air, cooler temperatures, road form. It all points to a loss. I hope that the squad surprises me with a goal.
     
  5. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just in case you didn't realize how long it has been, below was the lineup the last time we scored a goal in Colorado:

    Houston Dynamo -- Pat Onstad, Richard Mulrooney, Patrick Ianni, Eddie Robinson, Wade Barrett, Brian Mullan (Corey Ashe 64), Ricardo Clark, Dwayne De Rosario, Brad Davis, Brian Ching (Chris Wondolowsi 84), Kei Kamara (Nate Jaqua 72).
    Substitutes Not Used: Tony Caig, Geoff Cameron, Mike Chabala, Craig Waibel.

    Almost makes me want to cry knowing we had rosters that good (and Holden was out!!!)
     
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  6. *rey*

    *rey* Member+

    Feb 22, 2006
    Houston
    what the hell happened to us. discuss!
     
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  7. Heft

    Heft BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    -Several poor transfer windows in a row
    -Complacency due to the focus on playoffs only
     
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  8. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I could probably write a full manifesto, but to keep it short:

    - MLS quality advanced to where you can't live off of American college players only (plus more college stars bypassing draft for other leagues so overall depth is down)
    - poor decisions in signings of internationals (Landin, Koke, Lopez, Camargo) who didn't consistently contribute but are up salary
    - MLS budget and salary cap rules that lead to parity (our playoff success ironically hurt us each year)
    - zero homegrown talent (in fairness, many other squads don't have any either)
    - ownership commitment/Dom buy-in to spend on top tier DP (not a technical DP at $401,000 or whatever)
    - complacency and figuring we will always pull it together for the playoffs. Which we generally have done so not sure how much I can complain but I think it has allowed the FO to overestimate how good of a squad we are.
     
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  9. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Injuries and a bunch of moves that did not work out. Plus two big negative trends:

    1. Zero - none -- zilch -- production from the academy. Not one home-grown product producing for the first team. The rest of the league is ahead in this area. Home-growns stretch your salary cap.

    2. International scouting is somewhat behind many other teams that consistently find more talent abroad.

    Injuries/Moves not working out:
    Rico's concussion is devastating. Your most influential player gone. Poof.
    Cascio, Injury, gone, Poof.
    Lopez, not working out.
    Cummings, few minutes despite being top paid player, injuries and struggle to find form.
    Bruner, injury, gone, Poof.
    Rookie striker shows promise. injured. gone. poof.

    Lack of sufficient draft picks in recent years due to trading them away.

    Right now, over 1/3 of the salary cap is unproductive due to injury/call ups.

    Its a perfect storm of crap leading to crap soccer.

    Having said that -- I don't completely understand why the Dynamo are always under such salary cap pressure while other teams can make moves and bring in quality. Beyond the DPs which I understand -- how are the Galaxy managing their cap compared to the Dynamo? I would love to have that new Brazilian striker the Galaxy have. Or Peguy Liyundala from NYRB.

    Forever Orange. Go Go USA!
     
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  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    For this game:

    Brian Ownby Houston Dynamo 6/1 vs. COL Red card - violent conduct

    Also,

    Houston J. Taylor 4 yellows 2 games away from good behavior incentive
     
  11. Dynamo_Forever

    Dynamo_Forever Member+

    Aug 9, 2007
    Clear Lake, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The lesson MLS teaches is instead of handbags, just try a leg breaker instead. Like the Portland back who came in on the Columbus guy a few weeks ago. Seriously, just control your rage for a few minutes then try to end his career, you get less of a suspension

    League officiating and DisCo is a complete joke
     
  13. Hydro

    Hydro Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Houstown
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Statement of the year! Indeed, i am glad i enjoyed the glorious years, as it is clear to me that the owners wont invest on the team. They want us to be orange cones for the darling teams of MLS that are based out of pretty glamorous cities.

    Question of the year!

    Post of the year! Two thumbs up!

    Manifesto of the year! Good job!

    Observations of the year!

    *********

    Indeed, we have serious problems, problems that have been more and more evident as the old Dynamo team started to age and retire. As long as we continue buying season tickets, nothing will change, no matter how much orange koolaid you drink.

    Write Canetti and let him know you expect the Dynamo to address the issues identified above, or you wont renew.

    Put pressure on the organization. All they care about is selling tickets, and if they fear they will lose the 5k or whatever season ticket holders, they will do something.
     
  14. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    stumbledore = altidore

    the dynamic suck duo
     
  15. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Colorado tied Montreal 4-1?

    Joey must've asked his dad to bribe the Commissioner to make that adjustment....

    :D

    I think @newtex had it right in the poll: pain.
     
  16. camicia arancione

    Jan 17, 2008
    San Antonio
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Bruin ever scores 30 goals in a season for a European first division team, I'll wear red hoops and watch every second that FC Frisco plays the following year.
     
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  17. *rey*

    *rey* Member+

    Feb 22, 2006
    Houston
    Saving this post for later (just in case).

    Hopes the Veikuasliga comes calling. :D
     
  18. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I sort of agree with you. I'm not completely convinced they are so calloused that they only run the club by spreadsheets. This seems like a Stockholm Syndrome effect, but I wonder if STH figures went down that they would actually spend less money not more to lure fans back. That budgets would be cut further and no DPs.

    A problem with this is that probably 50% of STHs renew automatically or just don't care either way. So the swing STH who looks at performance, fun, cost, etc. is probably about 20-25% of the base (total guess).

    It took several years for the Astros to erode their base by putting out a minor league product at major league prices. I do think the Dynamo value their fans and STHs (well, with the exception of a founder's plaque), I just don't know if they will deficit spend to keep folks happy. With a corporate owner on one half (with no more Leiweike) and some thrifty owners on the other half, just seems like if Chicharito or someone became available that we would not even think about it.
     
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  19. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This reminds me of that scene in Moneyball when Brad Pitt is in the interview with the owner and is begging for "just a little bit more" so he can actually win something. The owner just leans back and says "What else can I do for you?"
     
  20. naranjableeder

    naranjableeder Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 30, 2006
    In the Terraces
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I miss Tony Caig... we will lose.
     
  21. BayVol

    BayVol Member

    Jun 30, 2002
    Clearwater, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope Wondo scores in the WC, so Rey has to leave The Keeper Notes Soccer show :)

    See you on the 6th!

     
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  22. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    revised:

    stumbledore is to dynamo as altidore is to USMNT

    PS

    altidore scored 1 goal this year for his first division european team. he stumbledored his way out of the starting line up. both are similar in expectations vs output department. I think you are safe from buying a Frisco kit
     
  23. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    I don't expect to win a single game until Davis and Boniek return.
     
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  24. camicia arancione

    Jan 17, 2008
    San Antonio
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can see where you're coming from, but I still don't agree with the comparison. Jozy is a great physical talent who excels when he's confident. When he was on that great, year-plus run of form in Holland, he was a freaking man when he put on the Nats' shirt as well. Stumbledore just isn't very good. At all.

    By the way, as soon as I started to hear rumors of Jozy to Sunderland, Stoke, etc. I said it was an absolutely horrendous idea. I wish I could document that, but I wasn't posting at all around that time, so I guess you'll just have to take my word for it. He was never going to succeed at a middling to bottom prem side, where he would be starved of service and support. It turned out even worse than I thought, I probably would have set the over-under for his goals around 7.5. There is a long list of great goal scorers from the Eredivisie who made similar moves and completely flopped. Unless it's strictly for a pay day, I can't understand why any attacking player would sign on for the ridiculous crap that passes for soccer in the bottom half of that league.
     
  25. metroag

    metroag Da Bomb Diggity

    Mar 2, 2006
    La hacienda
    winner winner chicken dinner! I think most of the city's casual fans think we're a helluva lot better than we actually are or have been
    -but then again, Newtex had that stat last week about us having the most regular season points over the last 8 years so who knows.



    damn-and we didn't even need the Plague, I mean Caig.
     

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