Fabian Johnson at Borussia Monchengladbach

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Dec 16, 2004.

  1. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Broussia Mönchglabach is going to be a good step too
     
  2. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
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    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. Hell of a scorched earth firebombing there.







    *ducks empties*
     
  3. krelmatrix

    krelmatrix Member+

    Oct 25, 2006
    Leipzig, Germany
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was more like 16-17,000 average per game at RBL home games this season. This number was pushed up by the final two home games which were the promotion clinchers (39k+ vs Darmstadt, 42k+ vs. Saarbrücken), but it still would have been around 13-14k without - still the top attendance numbers for the league. They a little more than doubled the average attendance from last season, which is pretty reasonable taking into account the promotion to a higher league, the heavy city-wide promotion and a generally larger interest in the team.

    Anyways, they have the most ready-made strategy to have legitimately strong ticket-buying attendance numbers:
    1. they play in a city of 500,000+
    2. they aren't named Lok
    Instant success. :)

    Sorry for straying too far off-topic....something Fabian related....I look forward to seeing his hometown team playing in my city next season. ;)
     
  4. LoewenBoy

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    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Great post, thanks. Wondered how they were being perceived in Leipzig. Love the city!
     
  5. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
  7. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wolfsburg's motivation was his versatility. Munich's motivation was they needed money. Both are correct statements.
     
  8. LoewenBoy

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    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    That's an inference on your part. The quote is "This versatility, which led to a $3.5 million transfer from second division 1860 Munich to defending Bundesliga champion at age 21, Johnson says is thanks to advice from his father." That's not a correct statement, ergo shoddy reporting. Had the writer written what you did they'd be more correct. They didn't. They were too lazy.
     
  9. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Every deal has two parties with different motivation. I see nothing in the reporting that is inaccurate, though it is not the complete story.
     
  10. LoewenBoy

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    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Meh...the reporter says the versatility lead to his transfer. It's lazy reporting. I won't even go in to the poor sentence construction of that sentence. You can put lipstick on this pig, but it's still a pig. Lazy reporting. Did you write it? Is that why you are offended?
     
  11. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States
    No, I did not write it nor do I know the author.

    You replied to me, remember? You criticized the one snippet and I felt an opposite opinion. I am not offended by your comment, but I do think it is harsh considering the reporting is not inaccurate.

    You have a different opinion. It is not worth any further digital ink to discuss.
     
  12. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Meh. Reporting reports facts. When a reader (as you did) infers something not reported then THAT is inaccurate. Inferences are not fact. Did FJ say versatility was why Wolfsburg picked him up? Did Wolfsburg say that versatility was why they got him (and didn't use him)? No! You inferred it.

    Using your logic I could inference FJ left München because he liked Wolfsburg instead. Bad reporting is always worth the digital ink to discuss. We've become so complacent with shitty reporting we are willing to accept anything. That's where inaccuracies and innuendo starts. You say versatility is why Wolfsburg got FJ. Where's the proof that's why they got him? Why then did they not use that versatility? Or should we infer something from that? ;)

    Let's try to have a higher standard.
     
  13. Deeneaus

    Deeneaus Member+

    Aug 29, 2007
    America/Deutschland
    Club:
    Arminia Bielefeld
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I respect your opinion, but hold up. Were you in that negotiation room? Did 1860 confide in you everything associated with the deal? I know they're your team, but what makes your "facts" the trump card? Why did Wolfsburg buy him? As a favor? His "inference" is more plausible than your "facts" atm. Is there an article you're referencing from?
     
  14. LoewenBoy

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    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    ROFL you're getting away from the point of the article, but I'll bite. It was 100% clear 1860 had to sell Johnson. It was no secret. That's a fact which is easily verified by looking at the press surrounding the sale. So the fact of why he was sold is already in evidence.

    Now, I make no assumptions as to why Wolfsburg bought him other than I assume they needed and wanted him for a variety of reasons. BUT. I am not reporting on anything nor I'm I even putting forward my opinion (inferred or not) as to why he was purchased. If I have an opinion on something or think its rumor or unsubstantiated talk I try to note that in my posts.

    But again, I am not a journalist. They have a higher standard to report fact...or should.
     
  15. Deeneaus

    Deeneaus Member+

    Aug 29, 2007
    America/Deutschland
    Club:
    Arminia Bielefeld
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not getting away from anything other than asking you what authority you're speaking from. For all we know he could have asked Fab why Wolfsburg wanted him. That's all I'm saying. I'm also done though lol.

    CONGRATS FABIAN! LOS GEHTS, JUNGE!
     
  16. LoewenBoy

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    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    LOL...if you can't see you are way off the argument on this one I can't help you.

    As far as why FJ left 1860, go read why. It is a matter of record he left because we needed money. Period.

    As to why Wolfsburg took him, I suspect because they wanted him, but you'd have to ask them. I am not saying anything as to why Woldsburg took them....Herr Boston is the one making that argument.
     
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  17. chalaron

    chalaron Member+

    Aug 15, 2006
    Baton Rouge, Louisia

    Why the hell have yall spent 2-3 pages arguing about a transfer that happened 7 years ago. Who cares.
     
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  18. LoewenBoy

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    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Cause there's nothing g else to talk about. ;)
     
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  19. Chance

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    Apr 5, 2012
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Bundesliga YouTube channel put together this nice little compilation of all the league's RBs who are playing in the World Cup. FJ makes an appearance.

     
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  20. LoewenBoy

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    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
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    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Oddly enough with all the injuries Lahm may end up playing DM for Germany. ;)
     
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  21. ckl26

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  22. LoewenBoy

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    TSV 1860 München
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    Sint Maarten
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  23. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    Said itback in 2012, that when fabian Johnson hits his prime, he will be good enough Germany A. Well I bet he would be the starting LB this world cup for Germany.
     
  24. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    I agree. Löw didn't to see it that way. One of the reasons I think Löw's best years are behind him.
     
  25. Hobo

    Hobo Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
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    when did he have good years? With Stuttgart way back when. He did win the Pokal in '97
     

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