Jozy and the Footycats: Altidore at Sunderland

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  1. Bigrose30

    Bigrose30 Member+

    Sep 11, 2004
    Jersey City, NJ
    I think the rule needs changed.
     
  2. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    All in all, I agree with the call. Except that the original foul was (IMO) outside the box. The S'land fans point out that the holding up of the forward continued inside the box. I'm not so sure. I think the original foul was outside. So, for me, it was a red plus a FK.
     
  3. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  4. PStevenson1082

    May 28, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I don't think he has the worst first touch in the EPL.... That distinction goes to another CONCACAF striker that is worse than Altidore..... Kenwyne Jones. I think Altidore is a more fixable project than him.
     
  5. JozyBradley

    JozyBradley Member

    Sep 1, 2013
    That's his biggest problem...At his size and height, he should be better in this department...I don't see how he can evolve and take the next step in his development without improving these areas.....He obviously needs to change his football mentality and just like you said, he should be a bit more like McBride and start throwing his body at crosses into the box.
     
  6. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder what happens if this interpretation was used and Jozy is given that goal (was it Chelsea?) at the start of the year
     
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  7. Major Major

    Major Major Member

    Jul 20, 2011
    Colorado
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He may not have the worst first touch in the PL, but he certainly has one of the worst. At this point in his career, I doubt it is something that can be fixed.
     
  8. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He has improved this aspect outside the box. But until he improves attacking set pieces in the box, he will be limited
     
  9. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Arsenal. Good point. That was a DOGSO, red, plus FK.

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    That pull is a lot worse than the one we saw today. And the guy was their last defender. Just like today. Wow.
     
  10. Bigrose30

    Bigrose30 Member+

    Sep 11, 2004
    Jersey City, NJ
    If Howard Webb was the referee that day I'm officially quitting the internet.
     
  11. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Few people might just be eating humble pie tonight. Sunderland have shown remarkable improvement to climb out of the bottom 3. Poyet maybe is not so clueless after all eh??
    Wickham might actually be a good young prospect?

    That gimp Robbie Earle should be reminded for his stupidity for life about repeating american broadcasters script a few weeks ago, that wickham was out of his depth and what Sunderland really needed was Jozy which of course many on here lapped up.
     
  12. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Mean while, at Swansea Bony scored another 2. Thats well over 20 in all competitions now. I still can't believe I had people on here pull me up on that when I said he was clearly a better player and then enlighten us with Jozy would have similar numbers at Swansea :oops:
     
  13. shnaggletooth

    shnaggletooth Member+

    Jun 23, 2002
    Loaning Wickham and relying on Jozy and Fletcher instead for most of the season was a monumental screwup by Sunderland.
     
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  14. shnaggletooth

    shnaggletooth Member+

    Jun 23, 2002
    Which American broadcasters said that?
     
  15. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Hindsight is fun.
     
  16. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    NBC. This is the same man sacked from British broadcasting network ITV for selling his complimentary World Cup tickets for profit...The man would do or say anything for money, a total sellout.
     
  17. Bigrose30

    Bigrose30 Member+

    Sep 11, 2004
    Jersey City, NJ
    Humble pie is a rarely eaten cliche when served up so smugly.
     
  18. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
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    Lol like grannies porridge as a kid, doesn't taste nice but get it down you, its good for you :p
     
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  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    And I thought the anti-American Roma fans would be gone once they got Bradley out of there.... Sigh.
     
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  20. PStevenson1082

    May 28, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona

    Altidore will probably never be a good in-air forward but there are a lot of things he could do. If he just went back to the basics, I'm sure his form would improve overnight. His touch isn't as bad as his on-the-ball composure. Those things seem to have escaped him since leaving Holland. Any striker worth his salt knows.....

    1)Keep mental tabs on the amount of defenders marking you and their relative positions.
    2)Keep mental tabs on your support and their attacking runs.
    3)Recognize where the empty space(s) are so you are able to receive the ball safely.
    4)Your first touch should be into empty space relative to your supporting player(Never play away from support).
    5)Always try to play your support through(unless the situational objective is to maintain possession)
    6)After playing your support through, make dangerous supporting runs in support of your team mate.

    This is really basic stuff, but for whatever reason(maybe confidence), he hasn't been doing these things on a consistent basis. He needs to watch Luis Suarez. He isn't even that big, but his hold-up play is what I consider the diamond standard. Defenders are always worried about him whether it's pulling defenders out of position and playing others through or using the space that's afforded to him and creating chances.

    If Altidore did these things, his scoring rate(and assist rate)would sky-rocket.
     
  21. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank god for Roma fans.

    Said no one ever.
     
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  22. Major Major

    Major Major Member

    Jul 20, 2011
    Colorado
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He can't do these things because he simply isn't good enough. At this point in his career it seems that lax defending, and not individual skill, is what has helped Jozy succeed when/where he has.
     
  23. shnaggletooth

    shnaggletooth Member+

    Jun 23, 2002
    I wouldn't have made the same mistake had I been running Sunderland.
     
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  24. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    "anti american" ffs :rolleyes:

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  25. Bigrose30

    Bigrose30 Member+

    Sep 11, 2004
    Jersey City, NJ
    Americans don't eat porridge. If you're going to speak in nothing but cliches on the YA forum, do your homework.
     

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