AC Milan General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'AC Milan' started by Calcio Pauly, Jan 25, 2013.

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Who should replace Allegringo

  1. Donadoni

    8 vote(s)
    26.7%
  2. Di Matteo

    9 vote(s)
    30.0%
  3. other?

    13 vote(s)
    43.3%
  1. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
  2. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Galliani: "I will have dinner with Florentino Pérez and Ancelotti in Madrid tonight."

    Galliani: "It will be difficult against Atlético Madrid, but it was also difficult against Bayern Munich away in 2007.":rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Galliani: "Europa League? We're doing our best in order to finish as high up as possible. We're definitely not snubbing the Europa League."

    Galliani: "We hope to finish the season well, but having a season without any European tournaments, is something that happens to everyone."

    Galliani: "Milan's philosophy in the past 28 years has always been to win convincingly - by playing beautiful football."
     
  3. KnoxMilanista

    KnoxMilanista Member

    Nov 27, 2013
    Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully he can get FP drunk enough to buy Mexes and Muntari for about 80 million or so.
     
  4. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: 'Mario Balotelli' Lookalikes had Stolen Passports


    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/missing-mal...sports-1439638

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...parison-to-describe-men-using-fake-passports/


    "I can confirm that he is not a Malaysian, but cannot divulge which country he is from yet," he said, hinting that revealing their identity could hinder the investigation.

    A reporter asked Rahman to say "roughly" what they looked like. The aviation chief replied: "Do you know a footballer by the name of [Mario] Balotelli?"

    :confused:
     
  5. KnoxMilanista

    KnoxMilanista Member

    Nov 27, 2013
    Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why always him?
     
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  6. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    I'm sure the guy just said that because Mario crashes to the ground so often, just as the plane is presumed to have done.
     
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  7. josh.haslam75

    josh.haslam75 Member

    Mar 18, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Mario ,more goals
     
  8. vasilli07

    vasilli07 Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Singapore
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore
    Gazzetta dello Sport saying Seedorf has 2 games to save job. I doubt we will sack him given how long we keep Allegri. Maybe end of the season if we have more defeats than win.
     
  9. stphnsn

    stphnsn Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    there is no way seedorf gets sacked before next season. if they fire him in 2014, i'm done with this club until ownership and management change.
     
  10. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  11. KnoxMilanista

    KnoxMilanista Member

    Nov 27, 2013
    Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah you can't sack Seedorf so soon. That's Palermo bullcrap. Even if he's terrible (and who knows?) it just looks ridiculous.
     
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  12. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    seedorf's an amateur.
     
  13. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    "Palermo bullcrap!" I like that one!

    I would have replaced Allegri with Pippo but now Seedorf has the job, I reckon he should get a transfer window in which he can get players for his 4-2-3-1 formation. Even with what he has now, he shouldn't experiment too much and play guys in their natural roles.
     
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  14. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Hey man, off topic, but I just checked out your blog and I was curious... Did Diamanti's Taiwanese lady/fiance/whatever follow him to China or are they living in Italy?
     
  15. wangfeng

    wangfeng Member

    Mar 21, 2014
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Hard to find a good coach
     
  16. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    http://acmilanfinance.com/2014/03/0...-stadium-why-the-site-in-rho-is-so-expensive/

    They’re only eight or so years behind the rest of Europe, but at last new stadia have become all the rage in Italy. Now that clubs have had a chance to take a long look to Turin and analyse the benefits of a pristine, club-owned venue, they all want one.

    Milan are no different. What started as a plan, with Inter, to simply buy San Siro and the neighbouring hippodrome from the Milan city council, has now turned into a hunt for a plot of land able to take the construction of a fresh arena.

    Both Milan and Inter have identified a site in Rho, northwest of the city (it’s a separate municipality, not located in the city of Milan), where the 2015 Expo will take place. The reason it’s so popular? Because in order to host the Expo the land is being completely redeveloped – new facilities, buildings and an improved transport infrastructure mean that, in the simplest of terms, all Milan or Inter would need to do is build the stadium. The construction and compatibility of the surrounding area for new facilities – important for all sports arenas to ensure they can be used 24 hours a day, 365 days a year – will largely have been completed for them.

    The problem is that this redevelopment has come at a great cost to all who are involved in putting the Expo together. La Gazzetta recently ran a piece claiming that Milan president Silvio Berlusconi wanted to look for a different territory for a new ground, as it would cost around €300m just to acquire the plot in Rho, not including stadium construction costs.

    What La Gazzetta didn’t detail is why it would cost €300m, and nor did they anticipate that the land could well cost a whole lot more than that.

    Arexpo SpA is the company that manages the land upon which the 2015 Expo will take place, with a role to oversee its redevelopment and ensure a sustainable post-Expo plan for the area is in place.

    The company was originally controlled entirely by the Lombardy administration, but is now comprised of five shareholders, who each have a differing stake:

    • Regione Lombardia – the administrators of the Lombardy region – own 34.67%
    • Comune di Milano – the Milan city council – also own 34.67%
    • Fondazione Fiera Milano – a trade show company that hosts various exhibitions – own 27.66%
    • Provincia di Milano – the Milan province (not the city) – own 2%
    • Comune di Rho – Rho city council – own 1%
    Prior to the formation of Arexpo SpA, the site was owned by the Fondazione Fiera Milano (50%), Belgioiosa (a private company, who owned 30%) and the Milan and Rho city councils (the remaining 20%), although one lot belonged to the Italian Post Office, which has agreed to leave the land in return for being relocated elsewhere.
    The Fondazione Fiera Milano sold part of their land for €66.4m to the Arexpo group, and then converted the rest of the land under their control into shares in the company to retain a stake in the site. The Cabassi brothers, who own Belgioiosa, sold their 30% for €49.6m.

    The Milan city council then bought into Arexpo SpA , with their 34.6% stake costing €32m.

    As a result of the investment, and realising they had no chance whatsoever of affording the redevelopments costs without help, the Lombardy administration reduced its stake to 34.67%.

    Not only did these five stakeholders buy into ownership of the land, but they each invested varying sums of money for the purposes of redeveloping the plot for the six-month Expo. The contributions of the parties involved in running the Expo are as follows:

    • €1.486b – the Italian government
    • €218m – the Lombardy administration
    • €218m – Milan city council
    • €109m – Milan province
    • €109m – the Milan chamber of commerce (a chamber of commerce is just a collection of businesses from the area)
    • €260m – private investors
    You can already see where La Gazzetta obtained their €300m figure from. The Milan city council have invested €250m into the project – €218m for their part in developing the land and infrastructure, plus €32m for a large stake in Arexpo SpA. That is money they will look to recoup, with the chance to make a tidy profit by selling some of their land to Milan or Inter.

    To get an idea of the level of overall investment into this site, and consequently why it is a potentially valuable area, it is worth looking at some of the figures and where the money was spent. €1.235b alone was spent preparing and constructing the site for the Expo, €1.78b on transport infrastructure, and €91m on increasing the land capacity. It is a financial trade-off for the Milan clubs – the costs of this redevelopment and transport improvement are going to be passed on to whoever wants to buy a plot, but at the same time the area is ready-made for a football stadium.

    Transport links to the Rho area are considerably better than the current links to San Siro, where the M1 line to Rho on Milan’s metro is often overcrowded on sell-out matchdays because Lotto is the only station serving the ground (though by 2015 the new M5 line will have a San Siro stop, right outside the stadium).
    The proposed new area is further out – you have to stay on M1 and carry on to Rho, instead of alighting at Lotto – but there are also rail links to Rho Fiera Milano station, and three motorways linking Milan and other cities to the site.

    The Arexpo group recognise the strength of what they own. The post-Expo plan, which had to be drawn up as part of the conditions of hosting the event, acknowledges that the infrastructure for services on the site itself is suitable for sporting use:

    ‘The main buildings will be maintained and turned into structures of public or general interest for the city, to be used for services, entertainment, concerts and sports facilities.
    ‘All thematic pavilions will be turned into facilities for the city (entertainment, sports, services and exhibition spaces).’

    Unfortunately, the fact that it would not need as great a regeneration as the area surrounding San Siro, means the land is going to come at a premium for Milan or Inter, should they wish to buy it.

    That said, a renovation of San Siro alone would be cheaper – and that option has caused a miniature game of cat and mouse to develop between the two.
    Initially, reports suggested Inter were the ones looking to move to a new stadium, while Milan were happy to anticipate a Nerazzurri success in this quest, and therefore seemed content to attempt to buy and renovate San Siro, even though they submitted a proposal of interest for the Expo site. Roberto Maroni, president of the Lombardy region (who, remember, have invested at least €218m into the project), was quick to encourage Inter to put forward a proposal of their own in December, presumably with the intention of driving the price up, and even pinpointed the area where any stadium would be built.

    But since the arrival of Erick Thohir as Inter president, the scenario appears to have switched. Ernesto Paolillo, Inter’s ex-director general, strongly implied Inter’s reticence to push on with the situation lay at the door of Thohir, claiming that he and his former club ‘lacked the courage’ to go ahead with a new stadium, that he believed Inter were going to be the ones to leave, but that now Milan have the advantage.

    For his part, whenever the issue has cropped up in discussion, Thohir has been reluctant to commit either way, perhaps because he cottoned on early to the expense of the site in Rho, but primarily due to his desire to stabilise the club financially. In December last year, he was clear in saying that it was important for the club to evaluate building a new stadium versus renovating San Siro – essentially the more costly option versus the cheaper one.

    In February 2014, he went a step further, explaining that a new stadium is ‘not a priority’ and that they will talk about it next year, possibly fuelled by the reports that Milan were now actively seeking to vacate San Siro.

    And that sums up the position of the two clubs at the moment – one seemingly happy to wait for the other to make a move. Milan appear to have realised that Thohir is in no rush to plan a new ground, and combined with Barbara Berlusconi’s appointment to the board of directors, are making plans of their own to leave. Inter and Thohir, with an eye on what’s happening in the red half of Milan, will keep their options open for now.



    UPDATE:

    Milan were the only team to submit a proposal for the Expo site by the deadline set by Arexpo. The proposal features plans for a stadium, to be built on the east side of the site, with a maximum capacity of 60,000, with additional space requested for facilities around the ground to aid the running of matchdays. Milan have also requested space for retail areas, and have expressed an interest in other areas of the site for the potential to build other sporting facilities and structures.

    This is just a proposal – Arexpo do not have to accept it, and even if they do, they must come to an agreement with Milan over a price for the land.
     
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  17. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    60k seats seems like a lot for Serie B...
     
  18. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    seemed fine for napoli.
     
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  19. stphnsn

    stphnsn Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    how many season ticket holders do milan have this season? i'd imagine that number will be cut significantly for next year.
     
  20. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Galliani: "Almost all of our players have a contract where 80% of their salary is fixed and 20% is variable.
    Galliani: "The 20% is related to Champions League qualification - not Europa League. So there will be no discussion about this."
    Galliani: "And I can guarantee you that the players are able to live a good life with 80% of their salaries..."
     
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  21. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
  22. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Here's an image of how Casa Milan will look like, starting from May 2014.

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    http://www.football-italia.net/47262/‘casa-milan’-plans-revealed

    Barbara Berlusconi: "I spoke with Paolo Maldini, and he is ready to return. It would be positive and desirable if he came back.":):)

    Barbara Berlusconi: "We want to own a stadium and we are evaluating different possibilities - not only the Expo area."

    Barbara Berlusconi: "Unfortunately, it's not only up to us, otherwise we would already be ready to build a new stadium.
     
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  23. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Essien and Muntari will miss the matches vs. Genoa, Catania and possibly also Livorno (due to injuries).
     
  24. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    We have a chance then.
     
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  25. gcstorm9

    gcstorm9 Member

    Dec 17, 2001
    Coral Springs, Fl
    Club:
    AC Milan
    If I'm not mistaken we have about 23k season ticket holders. I believe we were in upper 30s when we were winning a few yrs back. A new stadium or more sponsors or a new revenue source is imperative for Milan to succeed in future. We can't compete with other greats in Europe if we don't fix this problem
     

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